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  • Will, thank you for making some points here & this - 'but if that changes at all - you'll end up closing out trades that might not meant to close out. '
    some may not be aware that Caesar deliberately keeps some trades open sometimes & either continues on with them in a new basket or just tries to get some extra pips from some remainder trades, & remainder trades don't always get SL added either. Interested to see if any of the ST changes over weekend change the basket closing behaviour.

    Are you still updating the receiver EA or is there no need now after other changes?
    Last edited by littlemax; 09-14-2014, 10:31 AM.

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    • Originally posted by littlemax View Post
      Will, thank you for making some points here & this - 'but if that changes at all - you'll end up closing out trades that might not meant to close out. '
      some may not be aware that Caesar deliberately keeps some trades open sometimes & either continues on with them in a new basket or just tries to get some extra pips from some remainder trades, & remainder trades don't always get SL added either. Interested to see if any of the ST changes over weekend change the basket closing behaviour.

      Are you still updating the receiver EA or is there no need now after other changes?
      Hi LittleMax,

      Interesting comments for a Ceasar2 newbie to learn. I'm starting to think this is more than an EA as this sort of trade management is not how EAs work but is now a manual trader works.

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      • Originally posted by WillT View Post
        It would do if in the simpletrader settings you have that signal to copy tp/sl - just turn that off and it won't.
        Can't do that with Ceasar2 as copy SL and TP is set and can't be reset.

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        • I can't claim to know Caesar's inner workings, but ran the signal for almost 6 months now & observing the basket behaviour closely during this time there's been some pretty interesting moves esp. during news - complex strategy, Tomas has said a few times on Connect forex Q&A he doesn't intervene.
          And there were times I was gritting my teeth as well...
          Last edited by littlemax; 09-14-2014, 01:49 PM.

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          • Hi Littlemax,

            Would like to checkout Tomas not closing all trades in the basket and forming a new basket with carry over trades. Got an example?

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            • Originally posted by FxPhil View Post
              Hi LittleMax,

              Interesting comments for a Ceasar2 newbie to learn. I'm starting to think this is more than an EA as this sort of trade management is not how EAs work but is now a manual trader works.
              As littlemax mentioned already, there is no manual work anymore during Caesar's trading. Tomas mentioned that he tried it in the earlier days but was wrong every time.
              However, these irregular positions do happen very often and therefore that fact is not necessarily the end of your experiment. You still could try it for a basket to see if there is a difference in execution time as you expected or not.

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              • Originally posted by ralf View Post
                As littlemax mentioned already, there is no manual work anymore during Caesar's trading. Tomas mentioned that he tried it in the earlier days but was wrong every time.
                However, these irregular positions do happen very often and therefore that fact is not necessarily the end of your experiment. You still could try it for a basket to see if there is a difference in execution time as you expected or not.
                Bulk close EA is active on my account. Will report on what happens. Would really like to see example of carry forward old basket trade to new basket trade.

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                • Originally posted by FxPhil View Post
                  ... Would really like to see example of carry forward old basket trade to new basket trade.
                  OK, here is a recent example. The first single trade opened 9thSep 4:03:08 and closed 10thSep 10:08:16.
                  The basket below the single trade (5 positions) opened later than the single trade but closed earlier than the single trade.
                  Not really "cary forward old basket trade to new basket trade" but it is something what happened.

                  10.09.14 04:03:08 buy eurusd 1.29439 10.09.14 10:08:16 1.29350

                  10.09.14 05:17:04 buy eurusd 1.29365 10.09.14 09:42:28 1.29374
                  10.09.14 05:34:03 buy eurusd 1.29285 10.09.14 09:42:27 1.29379
                  10.09.14 06:32:04 buy eurusd 1.29342 10.09.14 09:42:26 1.29389
                  10.09.14 07:01:08 buy eurusd 1.29269 10.09.14 09:42:26 1.29387
                  10.09.14 09:38:11 buy eurusd 1.29338 10.09.14 09:42:25 1.29391

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                  • example of trade carried forward on page 3 of Ceasar2 Tomas acc http://www.myfxbook.com/members/togr/caesar2icma/737724
                    Trade that opened shown highlighted is from earlier basket but closed with new extra one taken after the initial basket closed. That trade was taken at lower price than the others which closed earlier but held on with a new trade again taken at a lower price , both then closed 8 mins later in profit. There's other trades like this can be found back through the history as well. So with a bulk close on the original basket this one would have closed at small loss or close to BE but actually closed later for around 7 pips profit, however you would still have got the second trade in the new basket close for profit on it's own. More often it closes all trades with a few at loss covered by the bulk profit, so these examples are not so common.

                    02.09.2014 11:44 02.09.2014 11:46 EURUSD Sell 0.02 1.31173 1.31159 1.4 0.17 2m 0.02%
                    02.09.2014 08:19 02.09.2014 11:46 EURUSD Sell 0.02 1.31231 1.31159 7.2 1.33 3h 27m 0.12%
                    02.09.2014 10:04 02.09.2014 11:38 EURUSD Sell 0.02 1.31279 1.31246 3.3 0.55 1h 34m 0.05%
                    02.09.2014 10:12 02.09.2014 11:38 EURUSD Sell 0.02 1.31362 1.31249 11.3 2.15 1h 26m 0.20%
                    02.09.2014 10:22 02.09.2014 11:38 EURUSD Sell 0.02 1.31306 1.31250 5.6 1.01 1h 16m 0.09%
                    02.09.2014 10:39 02.09.2014 11:38 EURUSD Sell 0.02 1.31252 1.31245 0.7 0.03 59m 0.00%
                    02.09.2014 11:14 02.09.2014 11:38 EURUSD Sell 0.02 1.31308 1.31244 6.4 1.17 24m 0.11%
                    02.09.2014 11:35 02.09.2014 11:38 EURUSD Sell 0.02 1.31249 1.31241 0.8 0.05 3m 0.00%
                    Last edited by littlemax; 09-14-2014, 09:55 PM.

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                    • from my understanding, as of build 600, MT4 can handle up to 6 (?) trades in paralell. Is this feature used when closing a large basket?

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                      • Originally posted by cyberryder View Post
                        from my understanding, as of build 600, MT4 can handle up to 6 (?) trades in paralell. Is this feature used when closing a large basket?
                        Thanks for the examples. Will study further.

                        Parallel closes answered here, 4th reply http://forum.mql4.com/57585.

                        Looks like I need to run 7 more Ceasar2Closer EAs to be able to close 8 trades in parallel. Will assign 7 unique GV names, one to each slave close EA and then use the master closer EA to pass them the ticket number to close via the GV's value. Not hard. Have started the coding.

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                        • Code finished. 1 master closer EA and 1 slave EA. Need 9 charts. 1 for master and 1 for each of 8 slaves. Should do basket close as quick as physically possible. Will let single thread EA closer do a few runs to get some data and then set up to test the 8 parallel closers.
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                          Last edited by FxPhil; 09-15-2014, 03:35 AM.

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                          • Very interesting: Why do the followers on Meta Quotes' platform have dramatically less slippage with Tomas' signal "amazing"? The average slippage is 0.49 pips with ICMarkets and 0.70 pips with Armada Markets.

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                            • Originally posted by signalfollower View Post
                              Very interesting: Why do the followers on Meta Quotes' platform have dramatically less slippage with Tomas' signal "amazing"? The average slippage is 0.49 pips with ICMarkets and 0.70 pips with Armada Markets.
                              Interesting slippage results: http://www.mql5.com/en/signals/50126#!tab=history Slippage page says results are in Points, then table says in Pips. Which is it?
                              Last edited by FxPhil; 09-15-2014, 09:30 AM.

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                              • Hm, good question. I don't know, but 0,49 points are 4900 pips. I think it looks like a little bit more unrealistic than 0.49 pips.

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