Profitable trader JohnPaul77

[Orion77]

Orion77, You are entirely too emotional about this issue to be just an interested observer. Thou protesteth too much, my little friend.

So you boys got caught out and now you are saying that you meant for this to happen? That is funny. As long as I have been watching you, you have been mending fences and changing webpages, trying to build credibility.
You have spun a huge web of lies but left a lot of holes and mistakes in it.

Have you not read my reply to your last letter where I disproved the whole Maxrich Group Ltd as bogus because it is a false address and somebody else occupies that premises? That time you even brought a brand new lie into play by saying that a Chinese company by the name of NVC Lighting Holding Ltd owns Maxrich Group and is at that address. Also untrue. You should have made another webpage to prove that and then I would be able to believe you.

Now you bring me another one of your empty webpages as proof. Are you a glutton for punishment or what?

That link above is supposed to be evidence of the head office located in the Phillipines. That web page has been a part of your cover for as long as I can remember but you have changed the name. So what? It has no legitimacy either. It is just another piece of the scam. I know this for sure because 6 months ago I opened a false account with this broker and funnily enough they don't do anything there. It is all processed in Indonesia and your deposits go into an Indonesian bank.

Orian77, I don't know why you and your fellow scammers just don't slink away and hide your faces in shame instead of repeatedly trying to dispute the evidence. You have really hurt a lot of people whose only mistake was to be too trusting. You have also made a huge amount of money out of this which you really did not deserve. Yet you are still greedy for more.
If you ever sell your signal again make sure you have a decent trader on board with a proven track record and make sure he actually works every day. Also get a reputable broker that you do not run yourselves. If you do those things you might eventually succeed the honest way and it will be a lot less stressful than trying to keep up with all the lies.

http://www.futuresgalleria.com/futures_overview/ to prove that the headquarter was in the Phillipines.

If you read my last post carefully, as you advice everybody else to do, I gave you the link to prove that the broker (or their white label FuturesGalleria) had another website, where they claimed that they are registered in British Virgin Islands. You are so sure the broker, the IB, JP team, and now also I are the same conspiracy, that you make Tito and his team responsible for everything the broker says.That is understandable as long you have the presumption that they own the broker.

As I said I could not prove that the information on the webpage was correct, not even that the broker company was registered in British Virgin Islands. Now I have got the documents I have asked for from www.bvicompanysearches.com

[Daniel]

Guys, there is official update from JP:

https://tradersfamily.com/johnpaul77-incidents/

https://tradersfamily.com/letter-johnpaul77-retrospection/

[bismillahwd]

LOL

Futures galeria is on my city , jakarta.
I dunno how is their operational model, maybe they just white label or anything with foreign broker.

But i know broker comes or operates or licensed, or anything related from my country is a true scumbags.

Maybe its just my sentiment? But i will never put my money in a broker who had office in my city. Too many feared story.


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[Mrs Marple]

Orion77, You are entirely too emotional about this issue to be just an interested observer. Thou protesteth too much, my little friend.

So you boys got caught out and now you are saying that you meant for this to happen? That is funny. As long as I have been watching you, you have been mending fences and changing webpages, trying to build credibility.
You have spun a huge web of lies but left a lot of holes and mistakes in it.

Have you not read my reply to your last letter where I disproved the whole Maxrich Group Ltd as bogus because it is a false address and somebody else occupies that premises? That time you even brought a brand new lie into play by saying that a Chinese company by the name of NVC Lighting Holding Ltd owns Maxrich Group and is at that address. Also untrue. You should have made another webpage to prove that and then I would be able to believe you.

Now you bring me another one of your empty webpages as proof. Are you a glutton for punishment or what?

That link above is supposed to be evidence of the head office located in the Phillipines. That web page has been a part of your cover for as long as I can remember but you have changed the name. So what? It has no legitimacy either. It is just another piece of the scam. I know this for sure because 6 months ago I opened a false account with this broker and funnily enough they don't do anything there. It is all processed in Indonesia and your deposits go into an Indonesian bank.

Orian77, I don't know why you and your fellow scammers just don't slink away and hide your faces in shame instead of repeatedly trying to dispute the evidence. You have really hurt a lot of people whose only mistake was to be too trusting. You have also made a huge amount of money out of this which you really did not deserve. Yet you are still greedy for more.
If you ever sell your signal again make sure you have a decent trader on board with a proven track record and make sure he actually works every day. Also get a reputable broker that you do not run yourselves. If you do those things you might eventually succeed the honest way and it will be a lot less stressful than trying to keep up with all the lies.

[Orion77]

PS - One more thing, Orion77. Can you prove without a doubt that Futures Galleria Blog is registered in British Virgin Islands? I mean real evidence , not some words on their webpage that say so.
You see, the reason companies register in places like that is because they are avoiding tax in their own countries. There is no need for the JP boys to do this because everything in their businesses is virtual, like running an online casino. None of their little "businesses" are registered like real businesses and Futures Galleria Blog is definitely not licensed and has no Bappebti number. Therefore they are also not paying tax.
To my way of thinking it makes no difference whether they claim to be a company in the British Virgin Islands or in Indonesia, if neither of these places is regulating them and charging them tax. I know it looks impressive on the front page but I am convinced it is another red herring scam because it can't be proved one way or the other and makes no sense. As Judge Judy always says: If it makes no sense it isn't true!

No I can not prove that Futures Gallleria Blog is registreted in British Virgin Ilands. And I never said they are. It is the broker Maxrich Group Futures Galleria who say the broker is registered in British Virgin Ilalnds on their website: "Futures Galleria is incorporated in the British Virgin Islands and registered with the Registrar of Corporate Affairs of the BVI Financial Services Commission - registration number 1415455. Futures Galleria is authorized to offer futures, and foreign exchange as a forex broker." http://www.futuresgalleria.com/futures_overview/

Tito Hayunanda and his team run the website TradersFamiliy and the IB FuturesGalleryBlog and are also the JeanPaul77 team. This is what you have "unmasked" as if it was a secret. My point was just to show that this has not been a secret at all - and certainly not for the Indonesian traders for the three last years. They have published the team with names and photos on both the websites. There has been changes in the team - but what so. Tito Hayunanda has been the leader and main trader all these years.

Like you, I don't know much about the broker Maxrich Group Futures Galleria. But I have had an small account with them, I closed the account when JohnPaul Team closed their account and encouraged their subscribers to do the same. I had the money on my bank account two working days after I withdrew. So I have had no issues. I agree that it is very difficult to find information about the broker. And I hope Nick will get information from the JP77 team, so we all could make up our mind about the broker based on knowledge.

It seems like you mean you have proved that Tito Hayunanda own and run the broker. But you have not. It is just one of your many assumptions and claims about fraud. I cannot prove you are wrong, but I assume. And I mean it is the person who claims fraud who should prove. You are mrs Marple, so I assume you will understand - or may be I am wrong.

[BsB_Swiss_FX]

Thank you Mrs Marple
Have a great weekend all!

[Mrs Marple]

Big River Man, You are so right. I just wish I could have got the message out earlier. I think a 12 year old kid could have done better too. I also think that there was a decent trader on board sometimes but not all the time. Anyway, they are definitely disgraced and gone and we are all just sifting through the ashes.

The thing that worries me the most is that this scam is so easy to pull off. It is so easy in some countries to set up a bucketshop, make a webpage or ten and then off we go again. It doesn't even require much in the way of intelligence.
I wrote to a lot of the Indonesian boys that JP paid to give them 5 star reviews on MQL5 and they told me that Indonesia is now the back end of a cow, their president is a pedophile and they are all poor and miserable. All their friends dream about getting job in Forex. When they see what JP has accomplished and how it was done we will have some copycat wannabees. Or worse still Johnpaul with a new name & broker.

You are absolutely right about being more aware and not so trusting. Trust me, many of us will become downright suspicious - and no, I will not pay you $21 per month but I will give you my account number and you can take out a yearly subscription for the low, low, discounted price of only $240 per annum, Yes, your heard it right - this is as low as we can possibly go. Grab your credit card and ring right now for your once only offer at this amazingly low price yadayadayada

Victor Tous, Thank you very, very, much. I worked so hard to put all this together for everyone and I got something in my eye instead (maybe a bit of spit I think)

You have made my day and I feel a bit more appreciated.

You have a great weekend too

Great work and effort you put into all this Mrs Marple. Well done and thank you!

Cheers,
Mario.

[Big River Man]

I most definitely appreciate your input Mrs Marps. It was actually the final impetus I needed to cancel this signal. I wouldn't say it's been a disaster but it has just been a slap in the face. All the hallmarks of a signal to be avoided. No contact or response from providers and poor entries. A 12 year old kid could of traded better the last 2 months and I most certainly have. Let it be known that I am unhappy about the actual trading. Shocking entries. It is CLEARLY not the same trader that made the money on the original account. So whether it is faked or not doesn't even matter, at the end of the day from what I've seen you all be better off paying me $21 month. At least I won't trade that poorly. Let it be a lesson to us all to be more aware and not as trusting. Just another example of why TA Smart and Viper should be considered, at least you know they have our backs. Trust is imperative people.

Sent from Uranus

[Mrs Marple]

Pearcey2, The evidence is all there. You just have to engage your brain and read it.

Here is the link to the MQL5 account http://www.mql5.com/en/signals/30745

[Mrs Marple]

Victor Tous, Thank you very, very, much. I worked so hard to put all this together for everyone and I got something in my eye instead (maybe a bit of spit I think)

You have made my day and I feel a bit more appreciated.

You have a great weekend too

[pearcey2]

Fabricating returns to promote signals is called a scam buddy! If you have another definition thats your own problem. Also selling a service that loses money is a scam in my book, especially when you are partnered with a broker as an IB.

Sure if I see evidence that the history has been fabricated I'll be the first to call it a scam. Mrs marple suggests that some losses are hidden from the history. If this is the case then I agree that it's a scam. If someone can show their mt4 following account in comparison to the JP myfxbook then please show us!

As for calling every system that loses money a scam... What about all the traders trading for themselves who lose money? Are they scamming themselves? There are profitable systems and unprofitable systems same as there are honest and dishonest systems. For it to be a scam it needs to be dishonest. If you'd like to start your own language with your own meanings for words that's your decision. Just makes it difficult for the rest of us to understand you

[VictorTous]

@EricB:
You have to be the funniest member on the site, ever!... Really, thank you for so many good laughs along the ride.

@Cartmanzim & Pearcey2:
Please, don't be so naive... After all that has happened lately, precisely something like that could perfectly be part of their fraudulent scheme/emergency plan.

@Mrs Marple

[Mrs Marple]

JRTRADER, you are making a joke, right?

[JRTRADER]

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