Orion77, Do you have trouble understanding what you are reading?
Might that be because you are so deeply emotionally involved with this issue? Do you really think that I haven't looked into this very deeply and actually know what I am talking about?
Didn't I say that I have been watching these guys for quite a while? in fact longer than anyone else by the look of it. I have read every review left by their subscribers on MQL5. In fact that is what initially got my little grey cells working. There were a lot of unexplained phenomena going on. Some people were not buying their story.
At that point Johnpaul & Co realized that what people wrote on the reviews were accessible to everyone and that they needed to improve their image. So they changed many things including trying to legitimize all their webpages and make everything look more cohesive. Unfortunately for them there are still many gaps in their stories. One is the street addresses that don't even exist if you google map them and it appears that Maxrich Group Limited is NOT at 31F, Tower One, Times Square in Hong Kong - these people are: http://www.jetoneglobal.com/#!contact/c2q4
Lets talk about Maxrich Group Limited (the supposed owners of Futures Galleria & Futures Galleria Blog)
When I first started to look into this tangle the only piece of evidence The JP boys could show to prove they had any relationship to Maxrich was a single page in a register and on that page the name was not exactly the same. Anybody who has ever been in business knows that the name must be EXACTLY the same or it is not the same company. The Company listed in Hong Kong is actually Maxrich Group HOLDINGS Limited. You can easily google it. This is what the register says about this company :
Business Summary
MAX RICH GROUP HOLDINGS LIMITED also known as 盛富控股集團有限公司 is a live business incorporated in Hong Kong on January 13, 2011. Their business is recorded as Local Company. It is not part of a group. The company has no filed accounts. The company was incorporated 3 years ago.
Conclusion: This is a shelf company indeed but NOT the one we are looking for. They are also small enough to get away with not lodging tax returns or are not being used. Now lets compare this company with what Johnpaul77 would like us to believe.
You can find the webpage on the Futures Galleria Blog or here: http://maxrichgroupltd.com/ It becomes immediately apparent that this is only a half finished webpage. You can see the copyright 2014 at the bottom. This is a very amateurish web presence for a company that has supposedly been in business since 1995 and has Billions under management. A company of that size would have certainly lodged tax, even have their own team of accountants, and most certain of all, they could afford to have a proper web page. Below is the nonsense found on the property page - how many people would find this believable?
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Maxrich Group (MRG) is one of Asia’s leading real estate groups, investing directly in high quality Asian office and industrial properties.
With $1.3 billion of assets under management, Maxrich Group also actively manages office, industrial and retail properties located in key Asian markets on behalf of third party capital partners.
Maxrich Group manages an office portfolio of 1.4 million square metres across Asia and is the largest institutional owner of office buildings in Hongkong and China.
We builds and maintains strong relationships with its tenants to understand their needs and delivers service excellence.
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This is not credible considering the simplicity of their web page and the fact that you will find no mention of this "largest institutional owner of office buildings in Hongkong and China" anywhere else on the net. Yes, that is right. You will not find any ads for vacant properties or anything else along that line. The only evidence we have that they exist is on the Futures Galleria Blog webpage. We are now supposed to believe that they exist because Futures Galleria Blog says they exist and they can give you a link to prove it. They can even show you the registration document of another company with a similar name. Would you believe this flimsy attempt at deception? No prudent person would.
Orion77, You asked me to look at the Trader's Family webpage as though that were somehow evidence of Johnpaul's competency at trading. Have you been around long enough to know that only 6 months ago the page was completely different? There were more and different "cowboys" on the team then (9 of them) and the most amazing thing is that they all had amazing skills, some eat code for breakfast, some are great at karaoke or "spinning the charts" but the important thing is that NONE OF THEM WERE TRADERS. This information was readily available to anybody who wanted to look. At the time they had five thousand followers on MQL5 alone and who knows how many more in other places, yet nobody noticed. These boys were only interested in promoting themselves, the trading was secondary. I will try to attach this document if I can.
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Our Team
Traders Family
Tito2 Our Team
Tito Hayunanda
The Leader
He came out of nowhere and knows everything. The kind of guy who will blow people's mind when he shows what he's capable of.
Dani Our Team
Dhani Pratama
Copy Writer
Dhani is a content marketing strategist that makes many of his counterparts look silly. He brings you the cutting edge when it come to business.
Agan Our Team
Rizky Agitama
Web Designer
Agitama is an award-winning graphic designer and consultant who helps you create a “big brand” through an integrated system of marketing and design.
Joy Our Team
Rudi Kurniawan a.k.a. Joy Crazy DaVinci
Web Programer
Joy eats code for breakfast just to get warmed up. He is dedicated to helping other professionals work better, do the work they should, and be proud of it.
Ardi Our Team
Ardhi Wicaksono
Social Networking Analyst
Ardhi has deep expertise on social media marketing, and he knows more about Customer Engagement Effects than just about anyone on the planet.
Napol Our Team
Irwan Setiawan (Napol)
Social Networking Specialist
Napol is one of the nicest guys you’ll meet. He helps you famous in Internet, in a good fast way.
Hendro Our Team
Hendro Sasmito
Investment Analyst
Hendro has always make his teammates amazed when we come to karaoke booth with his singing. He will teach you how to manage your asset into more money by spinning the charts.
Opung Our Team
James Poung (Robin)
Web Optimizer
Robin got his start in SEO before it even had a name. Over the years, he’s developed and executed on winning organic search strategies in some Web’s most competitive spaces.
Levi Our Team
Levi Giovanni
Web Optimizer
Levi is a pay-per-click expert with expertise in all aspects of paid search, having consistently dominated in some of the most competitive online markets around.
Jhon paul Our Team
John Paul
The One Who Make This Happen
???
*Pardon us for using English instead of Bahasa, the punctuation in Bahasa doesn't fit well with the spirit we try to build. - Traders Family.
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Above is only the writing in the page but not the pictures. You can write to me at Missusmarple@yahoo.com.au and I will email you the document so you can peruse it at leisure. I found it rather interesting that most of the "cowboys" were obscuring their face in some way and to me they looked right shady. I also noticed that when JP did the article about themselves on MQL5 Tito Hayunanda has had a promotion to "trader" ( what? fully competent now in only 6 months?) and they have added another team member that was not part of the original business Lorry Marthias. Well, with so many different people stirring the pot no wonder the broth was watery.
Well guys, I have only covered one subject today, but I am an old lady and will need to take a nap. Maybe I will be able to do a little more later on today after I have walked my little dog Chuckie.
PS - One more thing, Orion77. Can you prove without a doubt that Futures Galleria Blog is registered in British Virgin Islands? I mean real evidence , not some words on their webpage that say so.
You see, the reason companies register in places like that is because they are avoiding tax in their own countries. There is no need for the JP boys to do this because everything in their businesses is virtual, like running an online casino. None of their little "businesses" are registered like real businesses and Futures Galleria Blog is definitely not licensed and has no Bappebti number. Therefore they are also not paying tax.
To my way of thinking it makes no difference whether they claim to be a company in the British Virgin Islands or in Indonesia, if neither of these places is regulating them and charging them tax. I know it looks impressive on the front page but I am convinced it is another red herring scam because it can't be proved one way or the other and makes no sense. As Judge Judy always says: If it makes no sense it isn't true!
Might that be because you are so deeply emotionally involved with this issue? Do you really think that I haven't looked into this very deeply and actually know what I am talking about?
Didn't I say that I have been watching these guys for quite a while? in fact longer than anyone else by the look of it. I have read every review left by their subscribers on MQL5. In fact that is what initially got my little grey cells working. There were a lot of unexplained phenomena going on. Some people were not buying their story.
At that point Johnpaul & Co realized that what people wrote on the reviews were accessible to everyone and that they needed to improve their image. So they changed many things including trying to legitimize all their webpages and make everything look more cohesive. Unfortunately for them there are still many gaps in their stories. One is the street addresses that don't even exist if you google map them and it appears that Maxrich Group Limited is NOT at 31F, Tower One, Times Square in Hong Kong - these people are: http://www.jetoneglobal.com/#!contact/c2q4
Lets talk about Maxrich Group Limited (the supposed owners of Futures Galleria & Futures Galleria Blog)
When I first started to look into this tangle the only piece of evidence The JP boys could show to prove they had any relationship to Maxrich was a single page in a register and on that page the name was not exactly the same. Anybody who has ever been in business knows that the name must be EXACTLY the same or it is not the same company. The Company listed in Hong Kong is actually Maxrich Group HOLDINGS Limited. You can easily google it. This is what the register says about this company :
Business Summary
MAX RICH GROUP HOLDINGS LIMITED also known as 盛富控股集團有限公司 is a live business incorporated in Hong Kong on January 13, 2011. Their business is recorded as Local Company. It is not part of a group. The company has no filed accounts. The company was incorporated 3 years ago.
Conclusion: This is a shelf company indeed but NOT the one we are looking for. They are also small enough to get away with not lodging tax returns or are not being used. Now lets compare this company with what Johnpaul77 would like us to believe.
You can find the webpage on the Futures Galleria Blog or here: http://maxrichgroupltd.com/ It becomes immediately apparent that this is only a half finished webpage. You can see the copyright 2014 at the bottom. This is a very amateurish web presence for a company that has supposedly been in business since 1995 and has Billions under management. A company of that size would have certainly lodged tax, even have their own team of accountants, and most certain of all, they could afford to have a proper web page. Below is the nonsense found on the property page - how many people would find this believable?
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .....
Maxrich Group (MRG) is one of Asia’s leading real estate groups, investing directly in high quality Asian office and industrial properties.
With $1.3 billion of assets under management, Maxrich Group also actively manages office, industrial and retail properties located in key Asian markets on behalf of third party capital partners.
Maxrich Group manages an office portfolio of 1.4 million square metres across Asia and is the largest institutional owner of office buildings in Hongkong and China.
We builds and maintains strong relationships with its tenants to understand their needs and delivers service excellence.
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .........
This is not credible considering the simplicity of their web page and the fact that you will find no mention of this "largest institutional owner of office buildings in Hongkong and China" anywhere else on the net. Yes, that is right. You will not find any ads for vacant properties or anything else along that line. The only evidence we have that they exist is on the Futures Galleria Blog webpage. We are now supposed to believe that they exist because Futures Galleria Blog says they exist and they can give you a link to prove it. They can even show you the registration document of another company with a similar name. Would you believe this flimsy attempt at deception? No prudent person would.
Orion77, You asked me to look at the Trader's Family webpage as though that were somehow evidence of Johnpaul's competency at trading. Have you been around long enough to know that only 6 months ago the page was completely different? There were more and different "cowboys" on the team then (9 of them) and the most amazing thing is that they all had amazing skills, some eat code for breakfast, some are great at karaoke or "spinning the charts" but the important thing is that NONE OF THEM WERE TRADERS. This information was readily available to anybody who wanted to look. At the time they had five thousand followers on MQL5 alone and who knows how many more in other places, yet nobody noticed. These boys were only interested in promoting themselves, the trading was secondary. I will try to attach this document if I can.
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ........
Our Team
Traders Family
Tito2 Our Team
Tito Hayunanda
The Leader
He came out of nowhere and knows everything. The kind of guy who will blow people's mind when he shows what he's capable of.
Dani Our Team
Dhani Pratama
Copy Writer
Dhani is a content marketing strategist that makes many of his counterparts look silly. He brings you the cutting edge when it come to business.
Agan Our Team
Rizky Agitama
Web Designer
Agitama is an award-winning graphic designer and consultant who helps you create a “big brand” through an integrated system of marketing and design.
Joy Our Team
Rudi Kurniawan a.k.a. Joy Crazy DaVinci
Web Programer
Joy eats code for breakfast just to get warmed up. He is dedicated to helping other professionals work better, do the work they should, and be proud of it.
Ardi Our Team
Ardhi Wicaksono
Social Networking Analyst
Ardhi has deep expertise on social media marketing, and he knows more about Customer Engagement Effects than just about anyone on the planet.
Napol Our Team
Irwan Setiawan (Napol)
Social Networking Specialist
Napol is one of the nicest guys you’ll meet. He helps you famous in Internet, in a good fast way.
Hendro Our Team
Hendro Sasmito
Investment Analyst
Hendro has always make his teammates amazed when we come to karaoke booth with his singing. He will teach you how to manage your asset into more money by spinning the charts.
Opung Our Team
James Poung (Robin)
Web Optimizer
Robin got his start in SEO before it even had a name. Over the years, he’s developed and executed on winning organic search strategies in some Web’s most competitive spaces.
Levi Our Team
Levi Giovanni
Web Optimizer
Levi is a pay-per-click expert with expertise in all aspects of paid search, having consistently dominated in some of the most competitive online markets around.
Jhon paul Our Team
John Paul
The One Who Make This Happen
???
*Pardon us for using English instead of Bahasa, the punctuation in Bahasa doesn't fit well with the spirit we try to build. - Traders Family.
.................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......
Above is only the writing in the page but not the pictures. You can write to me at Missusmarple@yahoo.com.au and I will email you the document so you can peruse it at leisure. I found it rather interesting that most of the "cowboys" were obscuring their face in some way and to me they looked right shady. I also noticed that when JP did the article about themselves on MQL5 Tito Hayunanda has had a promotion to "trader" ( what? fully competent now in only 6 months?) and they have added another team member that was not part of the original business Lorry Marthias. Well, with so many different people stirring the pot no wonder the broth was watery.
Well guys, I have only covered one subject today, but I am an old lady and will need to take a nap. Maybe I will be able to do a little more later on today after I have walked my little dog Chuckie.
PS - One more thing, Orion77. Can you prove without a doubt that Futures Galleria Blog is registered in British Virgin Islands? I mean real evidence , not some words on their webpage that say so.
You see, the reason companies register in places like that is because they are avoiding tax in their own countries. There is no need for the JP boys to do this because everything in their businesses is virtual, like running an online casino. None of their little "businesses" are registered like real businesses and Futures Galleria Blog is definitely not licensed and has no Bappebti number. Therefore they are also not paying tax.
To my way of thinking it makes no difference whether they claim to be a company in the British Virgin Islands or in Indonesia, if neither of these places is regulating them and charging them tax. I know it looks impressive on the front page but I am convinced it is another red herring scam because it can't be proved one way or the other and makes no sense. As Judge Judy always says: If it makes no sense it isn't true!
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