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  • #31
    Originally posted by Nick View Post
    Yes, nice job Sherlock.

    Now please help us find MH370
    Ask Jacob Rothschild

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p29Cn1iyiJI

    Or

    http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvi...70_Connection/

    And please don't get all gay on me some people that this is irrelevant, the gauntlet was thrown down

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Nick View Post
      Hi Timo,

      He's using a MAM set up, so there isn't an actual trade copier involved.

      You make an interesting point about the slippage and it sounds like you have more information than me after conducting those tests. I'm going to be hooking up a personal account in the next week or two and will keep an eye on it for us.
      Thanks Nick,

      The MAM is definitely the 'Ferrari' option here, and that would give him complete control over slippage. Even though personally I wouldn't be interested in a MAM, i'd only be using the copier pathway.

      Good idea to test it for a few weeks, as Slippage may be a surprisingly huge factor in results.

      He may also need to adjust his trading style slightly, or at least be aware of the implications of additional time lag from the copier, particularly during periods of high volatility.

      I'd recommend to begin with he trades from one of your VPS's next to your copier VPS. This seemed to yield marginally better results from Caesar2 when he did this.

      I'm pretty excited too however, really good find Nick!
      Please keep us updated with testing performance ...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Potter View Post
        And please don't get all gay on me some people
        orly?

        Bit early in the morning for some of us. But whatever floats your boat

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        • #34
          Originally posted by timo View Post
          Thanks Nick,

          The MAM is definitely the 'Ferrari' option here, and that would give him complete control over slippage. Even though personally I wouldn't be interested in a MAM, i'd only be using the copier pathway.

          Good idea to test it for a few weeks, as Slippage may be a surprisingly huge factor in results.

          He may also need to adjust his trading style slightly, or at least be aware of the implications of additional time lag from the copier, particularly during periods of high volatility.

          I'd recommend to begin with he trades from one of your VPS's next to your copier VPS. This seemed to yield marginally better results from Caesar2 when he did this.

          I'm pretty excited too however, really good find Nick!
          Please keep us updated with testing performance ...
          Thanks Timo,

          We're trading the master on one of our dedicated servers. That should help a little.
          Click here to check out the most popular forex channel on YouTube

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          • #35
            Originally posted by timo View Post
            Thanks Nick,

            The MAM is definitely the 'Ferrari' option here, and that would give him complete control over slippage. Even though personally I wouldn't be interested in a MAM, i'd only be using the copier pathway.

            Good idea to test it for a few weeks, as Slippage may be a surprisingly huge factor in results.

            He may also need to adjust his trading style slightly, or at least be aware of the implications of additional time lag from the copier, particularly during periods of high volatility.

            I'd recommend to begin with he trades from one of your VPS's next to your copier VPS. This seemed to yield marginally better results from Caesar2 when he did this.

            I'm pretty excited too however, really good find Nick!
            Please keep us updated with testing performance ...
            Wasn't the worst Caesar slippage because ST copier had problems, which are now solved with new infrastructure?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by WhiteApe View Post
              Wasn't the worst Caesar slippage because ST copier had problems, which are now solved with new infrastructure?
              Not sure about that, the last few days my slippage has been getting worse. Closing execution regularly >5 and opening execution around 3-4s. A couple of weeks ago it was half that

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pearcey2 View Post
                Not sure about that, the last few days my slippage has been getting worse. Closing execution regularly >5 and opening execution around 3-4s. A couple of weeks ago it was half that
                It was pretty bad during the ST copier issues, but only during that particular week.

                C2 has always has slippage problems. I was working closely with C2 about 2 months ago to try and resolve it, because I was getting a ton of slippage and we were both on ICMarkets. It got a bit better when he moved his EA to a ST VPS, as he eliminated the latency between himself and the copier.

                But unfortunately with a grid strategy there will always be slippage with a copier. A reasonable amount I've learnt to live with is +5 to -15%.

                It depends alot on volatility though. If he closes baskets during fast moving spikes, it seems to always result in heavy neg slippage, which I guess is testament to the EA's ability to pick the top quite well!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by pearcey2 View Post
                  Not sure about that, the last few days my slippage has been getting worse. Closing execution regularly >5 and opening execution around 3-4s. A couple of weeks ago it was half that
                  Same thing over at my end.

                  Nick,

                  with regards to the 20k limitation, that is a bit of a let down.
                  What if we are not trading on a dedicated account for this signal, but rather a common account for many signals ?
                  Think it would be good to consider that with this kind of limitation.

                  Cheers

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SpiderX View Post
                    Same thing over at my end.

                    Nick,

                    with regards to the 20k limitation, that is a bit of a let down.
                    What if we are not trading on a dedicated account for this signal, but rather a common account for many signals ?
                    Think it would be good to consider that with this kind of limitation.

                    Cheers
                    the only solution to that would be a max trade limit. as I run multiple signals on 1 account too

                    Sent from Uranus

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                    • #40
                      ok I found the answer to my question further back in this thread about the master account trading hours on Alfaforex MT4 'Golden Key' http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Mana...r-fx-20/945716
                      from live chat on Alfaforex site (MT4 server times) open & close early by 1 hour compared to broker such IC Markets (current GMT+3 open/close 0.00 server time)


                      closed on Friday GMT+1 at 21:00
                      open on Sunday GMT+1 at 21:00
                      Last edited by littlemax; 07-31-2014, 08:23 AM.

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                      • #41
                        All brokers should open and close at exactly the same time. If not something is wrong. Surely

                        Sent from Uranus

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Big River Man View Post
                          All brokers should open and close at exactly the same time. If not something is wrong. Surely

                          Sent from Uranus
                          Believe it or not, it's quite common for brokers to close / open an hour apart. I think it's because they all run on different timezones, rather than running from GMT 0.

                          I was with FXPig a while back and they decided to close their DMA feed 30min early one week (and I missed a trade close due to it), and they said this is pretty normal occurrence. Other brokers may have daylight saving and close 1hr early etc.

                          So traders / signal providers really should avoid trading the last hour and the first hour of the week to avoid any missed action from different brokers. Not to mention the spreads are rubbish at these times anyway ..

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Big River Man View Post
                            the only solution to that would be a max trade limit. as I run multiple signals on 1 account too

                            Sent from Uranus
                            That would be the only option.

                            And also let a larger account holder run it at smaller risk, i.e. 40k account running at 0.5x risk.

                            I'm in the 'multi-signal-crazy-folio' club also ....

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by timo View Post
                              Believe it or not, it's quite common for brokers to close / open an hour apart. I think it's because they all run on different timezones, rather than running from GMT 0.

                              I was with FXPig a while back and they decided to close their DMA feed 30min early one week (and I missed a trade close due to it), and they said this is pretty normal occurrence. Other brokers may have daylight saving and close 1hr early etc.

                              So traders / signal providers really should avoid trading the last hour and the first hour of the week to avoid any missed action from different brokers. Not to mention the spreads are rubbish at these times anyway ..
                              That's why I wanted to find out their (Alfaforex) hours, it's worth taking into account when matching a broker to signal provider to see if there's any potential conflict with open/close times & the ability to open or close trades on your account as a result. It doesn't get mentioned a lot around forex chat though.
                              Last edited by littlemax; 07-31-2014, 07:57 AM.

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                              • #45
                                roboforex who i used to be with opened an hour later than others at start of trading week, again this was normal, didnt get burnt by it but then didnt stay with robo for long either

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