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  • Is this another Grid system?

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    • Originally posted by RenkoGuy
      Open trades are private. Why ?
      Not interested in people copying trades at this stage

      Originally posted by RenkoGuy
      Is this a test how long it takes to get a margin call ?
      Actually yes, Westie is trading with a horrible leverage, in order to see how it performs. This is a beta-test, and I wanted to have the leverages 50:1 and even 25:1 in it on purpose.

      Originally posted by Tradersmurf View Post
      Is this another Grid system?
      No grid, please go through the thread before asking questions

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      • HANSTREND V2 BETATEST - UPDATE:

        5x long on USDCHF, I checked why no counter hedge trades of other pairs, and that's because the circumstances are not ideal right now. I hope there will be other orders opened today. I checked the statistics of the ALPHA version, and over a timespan of 6 weeks, the avg. duration of a single trade is 1hr 46m, with a max of 6hr 27m. At this moment we exceeded this and I'm curious to see how this goes. Market has to move a bit now, either up or down doesn't really matter, but just move elsewhere

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        • Originally posted by Hans Bowles View Post
          HANSTREND V2 BETATEST - UPDATE:

          Market has to move a bit now, either up or down doesn't really matter, but just move elsewhere
          JoePro used to say the same thing. Sure smells like a Grid to me. MonkaS.

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          • Now that we have seen the first drawdown period, the statistics show 9% Max DD for 3% monthly ROI.

            What is the max Drawdown before THE ROBOT close the basket Hans Bowles
            Last edited by HedgeBitcoin; 08-09-2018, 05:26 AM.

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            • Originally posted by Tradersmurf View Post

              JoePro used to say the same thing. Sure smells like a Grid to me. MonkaS.
              I don't know a JoePro, but I do have a GoPro
              Why would I say it's not a grid if it would be one? If it would be a grid strategy, than I would say it is one... :S

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              • Originally posted by HedgeBitcoin View Post
                Tradersmurf Westie posted the trades, Its not a grid with a specific distance between orders but it surely is adding to losers ( averaging) , The 2nd and 3rd 0.01 lotsize are even opened at the same time and price which a way to disguise martingale. The first trade was 0.01 lotsize then 2 more 0.01 lotsize were opened at the same price ( double down).

                Then almost an hour later a 4th trade was opened of 0.01 to average in more. The 5th trade I can only guess was to average the basket entry price one more time.

                Now that we have seen the first drawdown period, the statistics show 9% Max DD for 3% monthly ROI.

                What is the max Drawdown before THE ROBOT close the basket Hans Bowles
                I'm not disguising a martingale... the orders at the same time is something I'm working on (and on my master account, they were NOT opened at the same time, and not with the same price, but still too close imo). Please keep in mind that this is a BETA test, which I will use to perfection the EA. Please read everything before simply looking at some stats and screenshots, etc. And.... another one for the block/ignore list for not reading

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                • Why do you need open trades if history is open? You can check everything there...

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                  • Screen Shot 2018-08-09 at 12.11.22 PM.png
                    Originally posted by Hans Bowles View Post

                    I'm not disguising a martingale... the orders at the same time is something I'm working on (and on my master account, they were NOT opened at the same time, and not with the same price, but still too close imo). Please keep in mind that this is a BETA test, which I will use to perfection the EA. Please read everything before simply looking at some stats and screenshots, etc. And.... another one for the block/ignore list for not reading
                    Proof attached

                    Same Price
                    Same Time

                    Order#13438492 and #13438493

                    So this is an error in your bot?

                    I also edited the previous message quickly after posting it because I see that your BOT did not average in but instead added more to a profitable position on trade #2,#3,#4 ,

                    Either way, I'd like the question answered regarding at what Drawdown does the trades close as this is the most important aspect of any trading system.



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                    • HaHa !

                      Always the same, first sign of drawdown and everyone wades in to the chat

                      Things may not go smoothly, things may fail, things may need to change. This is the nature of a test - and I'm fine with that.

                      I'm far more interested in the result after 3 Months, than 2 weeks though.



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                      • Originally posted by RenkoGuy

                        Well suddenly since years Hans Bowles is quite active on the forum and tradingroom, maybe it has

                        something to do with his new EA.

                        So we are all curious how it performs.
                        No, i am quite often in the trading room actually, but I not post trade ideas there, I just come to relax and chill there, but perhaps you are in a different timezone
                        Forum not so much, except for this thread which is quite obvious, as there is so much happening and things I want to coordinate and what not, its new remember? and a test...

                        Goldstar thread/forum, only if i have something useful to say... if its just nonsense by some people there, then I simply ignore them.
                        I have other things to do then just every day answer the same questions, and I not want to go crazy like some other signals providers did and feel pressured by it. I just do my thing, and if thats not fine, then I simply point to the door and say unsubscribe, bye
                        Which is what I will do with you now as well to my ignore list, because I have other things to do, ciao 1f48b.png

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                        • it was probably not the very best time to start this test, markets ever since begin july suck big time. very erratic moves overall, only gu and gold had a decent trend.

                          summers rarely are good for trends, this is in addition to the new europe regulations which sucked out a huge amount of liquidity from the market.

                          late august going into september i expect things to get back to normal, and fall usually has the best moves for the year.

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                          • Originally posted by reinerh View Post
                            it was probably not the very best time to start this test, markets ever since begin july suck big time. very erratic moves overall, only gu and gold had a decent trend.

                            summers rarely are good for trends, this is in addition to the new europe regulations which sucked out a huge amount of liquidity from the market.

                            late august going into september i expect things to get back to normal, and fall usually has the best moves for the year.
                            It was probably not a good time to start to make the system look good in typical markets. But I think it's good for a Beta Test to be done during difficult times. He should learn more about potential difficulties with the system.

                            It should be interesting to observe where it goes from here.

                            Cheers,
                            Rod

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                            • Originally posted by reinerh View Post
                              it was probably not the very best time to start this test, markets ever since begin july suck big time. very erratic moves overall, only gu and gold had a decent trend.

                              summers rarely are good for trends, this is in addition to the new europe regulations which sucked out a huge amount of liquidity from the market.

                              late august going into september i expect things to get back to normal, and fall usually has the best moves for the year.
                              I totally agree that the market is currently not ideal for any automated system, but I also have to agree with nwboater, that this is exactly what I want. Ok... sure it would be great to have constantly loads of profits and never ending, but realistically market conditions always change, and I look forward to as much horro as possible. perhaps the 5% dd based on x1 (now it's basically set at x2 risk and thus dd of 10% a bit too little, which means I might need to conclude that even $0.01 per $400 is too little funds. That and all other things I suppose have to be concluded after the 3 months. And that is, IF it even is able to survive 3 months I think it will, but with what damages on it's way ?

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                              • Just remember that it is a test. So it's actually good if it goes into drawdown and pushes it's boundaries. The only true way to actually test these bots is in real life situation. The potential positives for he testers with free subscription if something good is found far outweigh the small losses they will suffer on the smaller sized accounts. 16% drawdown in what about 2 days seems likely more than what was expected, so better to discover this and figure out why.

                                Just a 3 second glance at that order list suggests to me that the entries are far to close together and not what I was expecting, I was thinking the TF traded would be much longer. I can only assume the logic is entering on M1, M5 or M15 candles with entries those close.

                                Still interested to see though, if the system can transcend timeframes and the core logic is sound.

                                Interested to keep watching.

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