Atlas Fund Trading System

[highlow159]

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[TitanTrader]

Just for interest, have the algo changed in any way? It seems that the evening trades do not close even though they are over 10pips in profit. An example is the eurcad this evening.Not sure if this is the norm but it seems that last year, most of the evening trades close within a short period of time.

is there any tweak to the algo?

Hello,

Nothing have changed in the Algorithm dear nutkaze. The trades can go much more than 10 pips before we close the trades or vice versa.. the closing technique depends on market movement and different indicators and not on pips goes x pips up or down

best regards

Sam

[nutkaze]

Just for interest, have the algo changed in any way? It seems that the evening trades do not close even though they are over 10pips in profit. An example is the eurcad this evening.Not sure if this is the norm but it seems that last year, most of the evening trades close within a short period of time.

is there any tweak to the algo?

[TitanTrader]

[TitanTrader]

Montly update for Atlas account:

Trades: 33
Profitability: 61%
Pips: +58
Average Win: 21.16 pips
Average Loss: -28.02 pips
DD: 8%
Gain: 1%

I hope u enjoy the profits made from AtlasFX!

[TitanTrader]

Nicely played this week, Sam. Thanks!

Have a nice weekend

Thank you for your support Ales!

missed your post earlier

Have a nice week

[ales]

Nicely played this week, Sam. Thanks!

Have a nice weekend

[Big River Man]

Hmmmm okay but still in pips it was 190 pips made in 100 trades before the loss but then the loss was 155 pips so now in 100 trades the profit is only 35 pips.

Okay so this is better and still profitable for the year. Still seems high. I went through the MAE for all the 100 trades so yeah looks like about 10 of the trades lost, so it's a high win rate.

Okay, thanks for your patience. I will watch for another couple of weeks until the election.

Kind regards

BRM

[TitanTrader]

I think you have calculate it wrong when u say "Honestly 100 trades gone out the window for what seems like no good reason?" Its totally wrong my friend.

Please explain to me how I am wrong?
In the myfxbook analysis it says you have made 100 trades exactly on GBPJPY,. Fact.
That single loss on GBPJPY cost the master account $840

10.12.2016 01:31

10.12.2016 08:36

GBPJPY

Sell

0.61

125.66000

127.22400

-156.4

-837.41

7h 5m

-8.22%

Under the total amount won for 100 GBPJPY trades is says NEGATIVE $540
This means that 99 trades made $300 on GBPJPY and then a single trade lost *$840
If you expect that 2-3 times a year then what on earth is the point? With 99 trades you only make $300 but then with 1 loss you lose $840. If that happens 2-3 times a year as you say then it would cause big problems with the system. I guess what I am trying to say is with 100 trades that is statistically significant that 1 loss blows an entire years profit on that pair and 2 more times loss that it made.

Could you please explain to me how I am totally wrong? Honestly I would like to know because I would want to subscribe to this signal but I will take out GJ. But I could be a moron here and not see something obvious so please point it out to me. I am not being sarcastic by the way I genuinely want to know where my maths has gone wrong.

Can anyone else see that i am totally wrong??????? Feel free to point it out to me.

BRM
[/QUOTE]

Hi,

U are not a moron. I think u should not count the wins and losses in $ but in pips! If u analyze further u will see the gbpjpy trades are made in different account equities and we must take that into considiration. The only way to count if a pair is profitable or not here is to look at the pips and not $ made, I use 100% risk management without any martingale or greed technique and the risk is the same as the beginning, if we have positive pips when using the same risk setup at all times will we then have negative $ if we have gained positive pips?

I hope u understand my point here,

Cheers

Sam

[Big River Man]

I think you have calculate it wrong when u say "Honestly 100 trades gone out the window for what seems like no good reason?" Its totally wrong my friend.

Please explain to me how I am wrong?
In the myfxbook analysis it says you have made 100 trades exactly on GBPJPY,. Fact.
That single loss on GBPJPY cost the master account $840

10.12.2016 01:31

10.12.2016 08:36

GBPJPY

Sell

0.61

125.66000

127.22400

-156.4

-837.41

7h 5m

-8.22%

Under the total amount won for 100 GBPJPY trades is says NEGATIVE $540
This means that 99 trades made $300 on GBPJPY and then a single trade lost *$840
If you expect that 2-3 times a year then what on earth is the point? With 99 trades you only make $300 but then with 1 loss you lose $840. If that happens 2-3 times a year as you say then it would cause big problems with the system. I guess what I am trying to say is with 100 trades that is statistically significant that 1 loss blows an entire years profit on that pair and 2 more times loss that it made.

Could you please explain to me how I am totally wrong? Honestly I would like to know because I would want to subscribe to this signal but I will take out GJ. But I could be a moron here and not see something obvious so please point it out to me. I am not being sarcastic by the way I genuinely want to know where my maths has gone wrong.

Can anyone else see that i am totally wrong??????? Feel free to point it out to me.

BRM

[TitanTrader]

Risk Management for Atlas.png
Hi Sam,

Could you please look into this and see if you have any comments on what i have highlighted.

From what i can see you could make 3 simple alterations.

1.

For 100 GBPJPY trades to lose ALL of their profits and and more on just a single trade makes absolutely no sense at all to me and I am sure to you. If I was following your signal and it took an 8.22% loss on a single trade I'd be annoyed and I would put money on the fact that you are annoyed too. So my question is why even bother taking that risk at all??

This is from your bio for the signal.
------------------------------------GBPJPY pair uses 300 pips SL (Wide SL is just for protection against unpredictable events) and 300 TP, please bear in mind that we have calculated the risk and correlation with the other pairs traded and the result is less exposure and less risk to our account. We dont intend to hit SL when trading GBPJPY and we have never hit SL when trading this pair. We use wide SL and the purpose is to prevent spikes and big movement hitting us in the market. The MAX DD is carefully calculated and it will not exceed 20%. --------------------------------------

So that loss happened on the 12th of October. Not even the flash crash day. So I can't figure out how this trade even got to hit 300 pips SL. Seems weird and honestly 100 trades gone out the window for what seems like no good reason?

2.

GBPCHF seems too risky currently.
EDIT: okay saw in the bio that you have taken it out already.

3.

250 short EU trades is a significant number of trades to determine that EU short do not work for your EA.

I would most definitely copy this signal if you made changes.
To me it seems quite better for you if I point these out, no?

I could definitely copy and just eliminate GBPJPY trades. But I wouldn't be able to copy and only take EU buys.
Would you consider removing EU sells?
Is there a reason why EU sells are not profitable? i.e. was there a massive SL on short EU in the past that has skewed results or is it just consistent losses on EU short trades?

I am only pointing these out to improve your signal.
I'd be really happy to hear your thoughts. I reckon this signal here could be one of the best on ST network to be honest (not including GBPJPY pair that I can't fathom)

Thanks in advance,
BRM

[Big River Man]

Risk Management for Atlas.png
Hi Sam,

Could you please look into this and see if you have any comments on what i have highlighted.

From what i can see you could make 3 simple alterations.

1.

For 100 GBPJPY trades to lose ALL of their profits and and more on just a single trade makes absolutely no sense at all to me and I am sure to you. If I was following your signal and it took an 8.22% loss on a single trade I'd be annoyed and I would put money on the fact that you are annoyed too. So my question is why even bother taking that risk at all??

This is from your bio for the signal.
------------------------------------GBPJPY pair uses 300 pips SL (Wide SL is just for protection against unpredictable events) and 300 TP, please bear in mind that we have calculated the risk and correlation with the other pairs traded and the result is less exposure and less risk to our account. We dont intend to hit SL when trading GBPJPY and we have never hit SL when trading this pair. We use wide SL and the purpose is to prevent spikes and big movement hitting us in the market. The MAX DD is carefully calculated and it will not exceed 20%. --------------------------------------

So that loss happened on the 12th of October. Not even the flash crash day. So I can't figure out how this trade even got to hit 300 pips SL. Seems weird and honestly 100 trades gone out the window for what seems like no good reason?

2.

GBPCHF seems too risky currently.
EDIT: okay saw in the bio that you have taken it out already.

3.

250 short EU trades is a significant number of trades to determine that EU short do not work for your EA.

I would most definitely copy this signal if you made changes.
To me it seems quite better for you if I point these out, no?

I could definitely copy and just eliminate GBPJPY trades. But I wouldn't be able to copy and only take EU buys.
Would you consider removing EU sells?
Is there a reason why EU sells are not profitable? i.e. was there a massive SL on short EU in the past that has skewed results or is it just consistent losses on EU short trades?

I am only pointing these out to improve your signal.
I'd be really happy to hear your thoughts. I reckon this signal here could be one of the best on ST network to be honest (not including GBPJPY pair that I can't fathom)

Thanks in advance,
BRM

[HedgeBitcoin]

I went through the trading history and

2016/03/31 23:49:51	2016/04/01 05:00:25	161.598000	161.029000	0.70	Buy	GBPJPY	-315.40	-56.9	-2.93%	3581768
2016/05/03 20:09:10	2016/05/03 22:00:00	154.809000	155.452000	0.68	Sell	GBPJPY	-359.50	-64.3	-3.28%	3667274
2016/02/28 22:39:34	2016/02/29 07:01:45	157.741000	156.858000	0.58	Buy	GBPJPY	-417.09	-88.3	-4.57%	3475101
2016/02/07 23:29:14	2016/02/08 08:11:23	169.696000	170.346000	1.27	Sell	GBPJPY	-638.19	-65	-5.36%	3426881
2016/01/12 23:40:06	2016/01/13 06:29:10	170.087000	170.898000	1.25	Sell	GBPJPY	-797.94	-81.1	-6.63%	3348319
2016/10/11 22:31:41	2016/10/12 05:36:41	125.660000	127.224000	0.61	Sell	GBPJPY	-837.41	-156.4	-8.22%	4404745

Today was the biggest lose ever for this system but on the bright side it has traded GBPJPY many times and the results do speak for themselves. It's a good system with accurate entries! I hope that helps

[ales]

I understand your frustration and edgy respons there, Sam. No worries. All I wanted to say that you are doing a great job thru Atlas Fund especially when cutting the losses early (havent seen a 200 pip risk for whole year ive been following). And I hope you will continue to do so further and wont be "willing to make it back quickly" by risking 200 pips for a 20 pips gain... Im sure you wont.

Keep up the good work. Stick to your game.

Cheers

[TitanTrader]

ouch ... losses are part of the game obviously but this one was really exceptional as Sam clearly went agst his normal risk management ... 200 pips? I just hope we wont see this again, especially when trying to make it back quickly.