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  • Originally posted by RedRhino View Post
    If you follow a system and if it goes into drawdown , say 15%, when that was the Equity Protection (16% actually). What would you do?
    I doubt anyone was connected through the whole event. The account didn't margincall from trading activity of 1 day like some martingale system. There was plenty of time to make decisions.
    This is total BS we all know if you set a MAX DD on my account and its hit unless the trader has closed all his trades all new ones will still be opened on the follower account hence you could end up with multi Max DD hits if you trusted the trader to stick with his trading plan. Or at least stop trading for a few days and inform everyone that they will be removing the equity protection, therefore allowing the followers to make the changes they need.

    The fact of the matter is you where trying to protect your trading history /stats and therefore decided to increase the risk so you could recover the loss quickly and carry on as per normal like the previous times on your account, but on this time your system and mainly you got found out and lost.

    The fact is you blow up your account and the account of several followers. So stop trying to take the high road you lied and continue to lie, you made the choices in the account no one else.

    The difference between you and Reborn is one lies through his teeth, and the other one goes completely silent. That's it, you both F' ed up, just admit to yourself at least.


    Good bye

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    • Originally posted by RedRhino View Post

      Of course I didn't forget. The system was stopped out this year in June and it happened a few months after recovering the stopout in December 2016 ( it took 3 months for the robot to recover with semi aggressive settings).

      I discovered that the last two stopouts were my fault and not within the backtest of the robot. Sometimes experienced traders think they have the correct analysis and they override the robots command.

      Despite the recent success with my decisions in 2015 ( manual intervention), 2016 was mostly automated. 2016 results were alright but the stopout at the end of the year was a mistake on my part. What caused the loss in December 2016? It was a decision to not allow the Hedging( trading both signals). Based on the robots algorithm, the system would have flipped over to Sell side the same day of the ECB announcement and would have continued to stack sell orders to offset the few buy orders from the news spike.

      The latest stopout in June 2017 was also a result of not allowing the robot to trade in both directions.
      My post
      AUGUST 12, 2017

      Account margincalled August 29th, 2017

      If that is not enough time to make decisions, then I don't know what to tell you all.

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      • vontogr
        Caesar Signal Forex EA trades EURUSD profitability in grid formation, supports all US brokers, includes Equity Protection and automated trade execution


        Keep it up

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        • Originally posted by Gunther View Post
          Hi Frank,

          The ATS10 bot is going into overdrive, is this in recovery mode. Are you looking to keep this going until we get to new equity highs the bot seems to be targeting less pips with more frequency is this correct.

          As you know I was around for the December DD hit and I liked the way you/ the bot recovered, but the trading seems to be different this time round.

          You trying a different approach?

          Regards,
          Gunther I don't know why you are so hard headed. If you read my posts it explains what and why I did it. The stats aka trading history wasn't the reason for increasing the risk, it was to recover faster for the customers as I have done in the past.

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          • Originally posted by RedRhino View Post

            If you take the time to read all my posts you wouldn't be saying this.

            After the Equity Protection hit, most of clients left and they didn't want to continue for the normal recover which I have done in the past.
            So the subs who continue to support you are stupid and got hit. It's their fault right? They should have all leave correct? So don't blame you, it's their own stupidity.

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            • Originally posted by Lithium View Post

              So the subs who continue to support you are stupid and got hit. It's their fault right? They should have all leave correct? So don't blame you, it's their own stupidity.


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              I know it is a difficult decision whether to stay or leave while following any system during drawdown or reaching Equity Protection.

              A. Should the customer stay long enough for a recovery despite the necessary length of a recovery cycle.
              B. What are the chances of a recovery.
              C. Did the system lose its edge.


              The trading behavior changed completely after August. Isn't that normally a bad thing?
              Near the end of July DD was high enough to reach Equity Protection, why did anyone stay?

              It's always a difficult decision when money is on the line.



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              • So now that you blew yor pride accaunt and can't make money of forex you switch to crypto A little too lait, no? All massive moves happened in spring. Now it is correcting.

                Also what you write on your page is not entirely true. There is even bigger slippage in crypto. Price is being manipulated by few whales and ICO's who dump the coins. Not to mention news affect it's price like crazy.

                Also big and trusted exchanges don't pay you nothing. Mostly they take 0.15% for maker and 0.25% for taker. The exchanges are so bad each has it's own price, which is good for arbitrage. They lagg when massive orders are placed and can crash. So order book you see is valid only for the exchange you trade and there isn't an universal platform to trade crypto which is bad. You need to study each platform again...

                However it is easier to trade crypto, but only if no leverage is used and you hold for few years... Daytrading and leverage can bring you 100% profit or margin call in just few hours, so in a way it is more dangerous because crypto is too volatile to trade with leverage...
                Last edited by oportunis; 09-14-2017, 09:08 AM.

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                • I actually recovered and still made profit from forex - http://redrhinofx.com/closed-accounts-fort-financial/ No stress when trading for myself. So hows' your SFE ea working for you?

                  Regarding Crypto and Bitcoin...
                  News affecting price on bitcoin is no different than any economical news release for Forex. The best part about bitcoin is that it never stops. No weekend gaps at Bitcoin exchanges.

                  There are several BIG exchanges with rebates. If you also trade a lot, the maker fees can be zero at many exchanges. Try to get that in FX. AND, yes rebates means NO commission and I get paid when my limit orders are filled http://redrhinofx.com/trade-bitcoin-profitably/

                  If you understood markets and how they operate you would understand why each exchange has their own price and you wouldn't complain.

                  One exchange lags during high volume ( Kraken). And mt4 brokerages don't disconnect ever? Liquidity providers in FX never misquote.... lol.

                  A universal platform connects via API , there are many. If you don't like what is out there, you build your own as I am. Blackbox connects to what ever exchange I want just like real professionals connecting directly to liquidity via fix api.

                  All your points are invalid. You are uninformed and probably believe bitcoin is a Fraud , Words straight from the JPmorgan CEO.

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                  • china basically banned bitcoin and banned ico's last week. some chinese exchanges closing down. If china bans something, you know its worth investing in!!!!

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                    • Originally posted by RedRhino View Post
                      I actually recovered and still made profit from forex - http://redrhinofx.com/closed-accounts-fort-financial/ No stress when trading for myself. So hows' your SFE ea working for you?

                      Regarding Crypto and Bitcoin...
                      News affecting price on bitcoin is no different than any economical news release for Forex. The best part about bitcoin is that it never stops. No weekend gaps at Bitcoin exchanges.

                      There are several BIG exchanges with rebates. If you also trade a lot, the maker fees can be zero at many exchanges. Try to get that in FX. AND, yes rebates means NO commission and I get paid when my limit orders are filled http://redrhinofx.com/trade-bitcoin-profitably/

                      If you understood markets and how they operate you would understand why each exchange has their own price and you wouldn't complain.

                      One exchange lags during high volume ( Kraken). And mt4 brokerages don't disconnect ever? Liquidity providers in FX never misquote.... lol.

                      A universal platform connects via API , there are many. If you don't like what is out there, you build your own as I am. Blackbox connects to what ever exchange I want just like real professionals connecting directly to liquidity via fix api.

                      All your points are invalid. You are uninformed and probably believe bitcoin is a Fraud , Words straight from the JPmorgan CEO.
                      The fact that you can't see that the profits you made after margin call was pure luck shows you have no idea what's going on. You gambled with the remaining money you had in the account and got lucky. It wasn't because you had trading skills.

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                      • Well, I made at least 5000 % ROI from crypto in 2 years, but mostly from ICO's and by investing in "penny" altcoins that went from few cents to 1 or 5 $ and I also get profit from PoS and PoW, because I have mining rigs, so I know exactly what crypto is...

                        And this that crypot is traded 24/7 is not a good deal, no break and if you day trade you will have much less profit than if you would just "hodl" not to mention you suggesting to trade crypto with leverage is dangerous, because crypto moves about 5-10% per day on average, so if you use leverage you get times x profit/loss. For example This month BTC dropped about 30% if you used leverage 1:5 you can count what would have happened, while if you just hold it is less dangerous. And it is not only Kraken who lags, but all do. And some exchange can have such spike that for example price of ETH can drop from 300$ to few cents in second, while on other exchange there is almost no movement...

                        Plus some BS news can affect on the volatility of the coin, which can be manipulated. A Nice example was the "death" of Vitalik I'm all pro crypto, but people need to do their research and do not use his affiliate exchange. Trade with exchange which is regulated and has cold storage, because you never know when someone can hack it.

                        Last edited by oportunis; 09-14-2017, 11:52 AM.

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                        • call it what ever you want. It was my trading decisions and not yours. It wasn't a gamble at all, I locked in profits, added more, locked in more profits, etc etc. And where's your track record Mario?

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                          • Originally posted by oportunis View Post
                            Well, I made at least 5000 % ROI from crypto in 2 years, but mostly from ICO's and by investing in "penny" altcoins that went from few cents to 1 or 5 $ and I also get profit from PoS and PoW, because I have mining rigs, so I know exactly what crypto is...

                            And this that crypot is traded 24/7 is not a good deal, no break and if you day trade you will have much less profit than if you would just "hodl" not to mention you suggesting to trade crypto with leverage is dangerous, because crypto moves about 5-10% per day on average, so if you use leverage you get times x profit/loss. For example This month BTC dropped about 30% if you used leverage 1:5 you can count what would have happened, while if you just hold it is less dangerous. And it is not only Kraken who lags, but all do. And some exchange can have such spike that for example price of ETH can drop from 300$ to few cents in second, while on other exchange there is almost no movement...

                            Plus some BS news can affect on the volatility of the coin, which can be manipulated. A Nice example was the "death" of Vitalik I'm all pro crypto, but people need to do their research and do not use his affiliate exchange. Trade with exchange which is regulated and has cold storage, because you never know when someone can hack it.
                            that fact that you investing in some low market cap crypto's makes me laugh and ICO's are 99% scam. so yeah, that explains a lot.
                            ETH dropped to a few cents was on coinbase. all customers refunded. Did any fx brokerage refund traders on CHF or brexit, or GBP flash crash?

                            Bitmex has never been hacked and its all cold storage. Every withdrawal is manual.. Damn you really need to do some research before saying this stuff.

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                            • I did my research, and the huge spike wasn't on coinbase, as I know it was GDAX which is the number 7 most traded exchange: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour
                              Where is Bitmex? Not even on the list... And none of those pays to you... They do lower the fee based on volume only that is correct.

                              How do you trade if there is no volume?

                              Also saying ICO is 99% scam says it all, some went that road, but most are not. There might be some that are not successful and won't last, but they are not scamming. So do not go that road... And for your knowledge, I did most profit on XRP, ETH, BTC, ETC, GNT, DMD... and a few others... None of them is low market cap...

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                              • coinbase is Gdax....
                                Bitmex - https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/...-hour/no-fees/ ( 500million in volume today)
                                1. BitMEX
                                1 Bitcoin BTC/USD $505,534,000 $3568.50 100.00%

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