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  • fiveninefish
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    Woah. What the hell is happening? I take one weekend off, and the whole place goes up in flames.

    Plenty of rational-thinking people are happy to subscribe to this signal. I've been tracking it, doing my own research on this and 'another' forum, and finally reallocated a large chunk of funds to a new brokerage in anticipation of finally subscribing to this signal. It takes me a while to jump into something new, and I finally feel ready - and comfortable enough - to do so. This isn't the only forum where reiner is active, and there are literally years of content elsewhere to satisfy anybody's desire be a detective. There are a lot of other obviously shit signals to shake sticks at; and for the life of me I don't see the compelling reason to make a personal crusade over this one. Yes, it's gained some (deserved) rapid attention on this particular forum, but it's not like reiner popped up out of nowhere. He has his reasons for not verifying his master account, there are those of us who are fine with this, and those who are not. Can't the two parties go their separate ways and continue the pursuit of profit?

    I appreciate the fact that there are the watchdogs out there trying to keep an eye out for the scammers, but your point is made and filed away for reference in case it all hits the fan.

    Reiner, please reconsider going dark. Or even better, go ahead and withdraw but PM me a link to subscribe via some super secret, completely-unverified signal.

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  • Nick
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    Originally posted by reinerh View Post

    cj,

    you have no idea whatsoever if your account gets copied or not behind you back.

    all i am saying i am paranoid about this since i built in protection into mine as to that my trades hopefully wont get targeted by the liquidity providers and my system ultimately fails like most all do.

    there is a reason is quite simple why most all systems fail after 6 months or whatever timeframe. the liquidity providers can lock onto any algo traded or oversubscribed system like a cruise missile on its target.

    i want my system to stay viable for as long as possible.

    it took me 10 years to come up with this system, working on it feverishly for about 6. only this spring the last piece of the puzzle fell into place. and now i can implement it all.

    it needs to pay me back the 6 long hard years i worked on it. it goes back almost 20 years into my stock trading days on level 2, same principle is applied to my fx trades now.
    Just jumping in here to see what all the fuss is about.

    Sorry Reiner, but I have to call bullshit.

    Liquidity providers don't work like a cruise missile.

    Come on... There is nobody out there reverse engineering your secret strategy in a covert attempt to take your money. The only time liquidity providers care is if you're pushing through 1000 lots at a time, and even then they don't care about the strategy, just filling the orders and how it effects their pricing.

    If you're serious about trading for investors and making a shit load of money you should take my advice and:

    - Verify everything. Provide 100% transparency.
    - Offer a signal for 6 months to prove that you are as good as you say you are.
    - Close the signal to new clients and invite new investors into a MAM.

    If you use that model and trade profitably, you'll be managing $5mil + within the next 2 years.

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  • Drcdp
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    Originally posted by reinerh View Post

    drcp, my signal days are over, never again will i go there everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    signalstart i put an end to as well btw.

    i worked long hard years on this and my plan was to go dark after a while, meaning removing verification after a while, but i am sure this might not sink easily as well.

    and again, thales best trader of all times has his account also not verified, neither has viper btw.

    trust me, you single handedly ended all my enthusiastic plans i had............................................

    but i shall succeed in making green pips for a while to come..............................

    you did not break my spirits, life goes on....................
    Are we back to playing the victim again? Classical scammer behavior. CJ gave you a very good solution to prove that I am wrong. Why not use it?

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  • reinerh
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    Originally posted by nc! View Post
    If you can explain reinerth how can your intellectual rights are impeached by verifying account? I am not newbie but I learn always. I respect your opinion and it is your right to turn your signal on and off, verify, not verify. Our money is at steak here also. Trade the markets, hope fully will allocate funds to a new account to follow you in the future when the signal is available. Thanks for the offering.Otherwise we are the victim here. Cheers nc!
    if my trades get copied without my consent, then my intellectual rights are clearly violated.

    or i used the wrong word maybe, i am german after all my english is decent but maybe not the best.

    so put this way, if you worked on a system for as long as i have, would you not be protective of that ????????????????????????????

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  • klass
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    rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrr
    cartman???

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  • reinerh
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    Originally posted by Drcdp View Post

    Ok, let me explain a couple of things to you.

    Firstly, your Impulse signal is listed on Signalstart. As I am sure you are aware, signalstart is owned by myfxbook. Also, as I am sure you must know, signalstart uses the investor password of your account, to copy the trades to client accounts. So, seeing that you are listed on signalstart, myfxbook already has your investor password.

    Secondly, verification is very important, as it compares the trades that you have uploaded to myfxbook, to the actual trades from your broker account. Without verification, your myfxbook results means nothing, as it is very easy to falsify results to myfxbook, hence the fact that they have included the verification process to ensure that your transactions match those of your broker account, and that you can prove you have trading privileges.

    I believe CJ has offered a good solution there, if you are concerned about your investor password, then just verify the account for 24 hours.

    As I said before, really no point to continue this debate, I would hope by now that most people can see what is going on here.

    drcp, my signal days are over, never again will i go there everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    signalstart i put an end to as well btw.

    i worked long hard years on this and my plan was to go dark after a while, meaning removing verification after a while, but i am sure this might not sink easily as well.

    and again, thales best trader of all times has his account also not verified, neither has viper btw.

    trust me, you single handedly ended all my enthusiastic plans i had............................................

    but i shall succeed in making green pips for a while to come..............................

    you did not break my spirits, life goes on....................

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  • reinerh
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    cj,

    you have no idea whatsoever if your account gets copied or not behind you back.

    all i am saying i am paranoid about this since i built in protection into mine as to that my trades hopefully wont get targeted by the liquidity providers and my system ultimately fails like most all do.

    there is a reason is quite simple why most all systems fail after 6 months or whatever timeframe. the liquidity providers can lock onto any algo traded or oversubscribed system like a cruise missile on its target.

    i want my system to stay viable for as long as possible.

    it took me 10 years to come up with this system, working on it feverishly for about 6. only this spring the last piece of the puzzle fell into place. and now i can implement it all.

    it needs to pay me back the 6 long hard years i worked on it. it goes back almost 20 years into my stock trading days on level 2, same principle is applied to my fx trades now.

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  • Drcdp
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    Originally posted by reinerh View Post
    I am starting to wonder if you know what the term verification means ))))))))))))))))

    yes i sure do, but obviously you dont.

    its clear to me you have never verified an account yourself, or thought about the possible ramifications.

    in order to achieve full verification you have no other choice then to supply your investor password to myfxbook.

    that in turn means that they possibly could sell my trades as signals behind my back, meaning without my consent. forex is a very dirty business after all.

    and i take my intellectual rights very very seriously, but maybe a little to much so.

    but i am sure your trades nobody would want to copy anyway................

    furthermore i came here with the full intention to eventually become the best provider simpletrader has ever had.

    also i wanted to show my skills in real time forward in the trader competition as well.

    since i read multiple times that nick is looking for talent. this would have shown everybody my true full capabilities in real time forward.

    over the years i have seen many providers go up in flames, dayfox comes to mind.

    i wanted to change all that and make people some much deserved profits.

    but you attacking my character the way you did, you killed my baby, secondly you literally chased me away with a baseball bat and forced me to close my signal provider career for good.

    and to be honest i could have my legal team coming after you for defamation, after all i suffered a huge financial loss due to your actions.

    thank you very much...................

    but rest assured my spirits are far from broken..............................



    cj, you won the grand price, where do you want me to send the reward
    Ok, let me explain a couple of things to you.

    Firstly, your Impulse signal is listed on Signalstart. As I am sure you are aware, signalstart is owned by myfxbook. Also, as I am sure you must know, signalstart uses the investor password of your account, to copy the trades to client accounts. So, seeing that you are listed on signalstart, myfxbook already has your investor password.

    Secondly, verification is very important, as it compares the trades that you have uploaded to myfxbook, to the actual trades from your broker account. Without verification, your myfxbook results means nothing, as it is very easy to falsify results to myfxbook, hence the fact that they have included the verification process to ensure that your transactions match those of your broker account, and that you can prove you have trading privileges.

    I believe CJ has offered a good solution there, if you are concerned about your investor password, then just verify the account for 24 hours.

    As I said before, really no point to continue this debate, I would hope by now that most people can see what is going on here.


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  • reinerh
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    I am starting to wonder if you know what the term verification means ))))))))))))))))

    yes i sure do, but obviously you dont.

    its clear to me you have never verified an account yourself, or thought about the possible ramifications.

    in order to achieve full verification you have no other choice then to supply your investor password to myfxbook.

    that in turn means that they possibly could sell my trades as signals behind my back, meaning without my consent. forex is a very dirty business after all.

    and i take my intellectual rights very very seriously, but maybe a little to much so.

    but i am sure your trades nobody would want to copy anyway................

    furthermore i came here with the full intention to eventually become the best provider simpletrader has ever had.

    also i wanted to show my skills in real time forward in the trader competition as well.

    since i read multiple times that nick is looking for talent. this would have shown everybody my true full capabilities in real time forward.

    over the years i have seen many providers go up in flames, dayfox comes to mind.

    i wanted to change all that and make people some much deserved profits.

    but you attacking my character the way you did, you killed my baby, secondly you literally chased me away with a baseball bat and forced me to close my signal provider career for good.

    and to be honest i could have my legal team coming after you for defamation, after all i suffered a huge financial loss due to your actions.

    thank you very much...................

    but rest assured my spirits are far from broken..............................



    cj, you won the grand price, where do you want me to send the reward

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  • nc!
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    If you can explain reinerth how can your intellectual rights are impeached by verifying account? I am not newbie but I learn always. I respect your opinion and it is your right to turn your signal on and off, verify, not verify. Our money is at steak here also. Trade the markets, hope fully will allocate funds to a new account to follow you in the future when the signal is available. Thanks for the offering.Otherwise we are the victim here. Cheers nc!

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  • Drcdp
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    Originally posted by ccjhuang View Post

    I think what reinerh can do, is to verify the master account just for 24hrs to proof that the account verifiable, then change the investor password again. That would be enough proof that you own and can operate the account.
    That is a very good idea.

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  • ccjhuang
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    Last edited by ccjhuang; 11-13-2017, 08:16 PM.

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  • Drcdp
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    Originally posted by reinerh View Post
    drcdp,

    how long you been in this business ????????????????????

    i give you a hint................

    its simply to protect my intellectual rights. and i wish i could have my signal account as not verified as well..............................

    so give that some thought and let me know what you think.
    My thoughts are that you not being able to provide a plausible explanation raises a big red flag for me. Verifying your account will in no way at all impeach on your intellectual rights. I am starting to wonder if you know what the term verification means.

    I really dont think there is any point continuing this debate. No one is going to stop you from providing a signal, and I believe potential investors have enough information now to make an informed decision.

    So, you can play the victim, or you could continue to provide a signal and let your trading do the talking.

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  • reinerh
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    drcdp,

    how long you been in this business ????????????????????

    i give you a hint................

    its simply to protect my intellectual rights. and i wish i could have my signal account as not verified as well..............................

    so give that some thought and let me know what you think.

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  • Drcdp
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    Originally posted by reinerh View Post

    dave,

    apology accepted,

    here is the deal......................................

    you wanting to follow a signal, so i consider you a newbie. my signal description was already as clear as clear i possibly could make it. even so, you did not quite understand a few things, thats fine.

    so in my mind i thought i did a good job answering you, but maybe not, subsequently offering you a refund right away, and trying to preserve your live account.

    i also understand the importance of a verified account to a prospect subscriber, makes 100% sense to me.

    but it wasnt you at all...............

    mr super moderator has clearly no knowledge at all how this fx business really works. so your thing, going on and mr super moderator simultaneously simply pushed me over the edge.

    i expected to be treated with respect from mr super moderator since he clearly is not a newbie, at least so i thought. and him calling for an investigation i am scammer and so on, gimme a break,

    i am simply a human being like the rest of us, no space alien here.................................

    so in your further quest finding a good system please print out my weekly update, on page 4

    its is the one and only formula you need to find a good system, its simple as heck as well.

    remember, i clearly stated from the onset that i wanted to eventually become the best provider simpletrader has ever had, it was not meant to be.

    so i decided to move on and rebuilt my dignity, life goes on......................................
    Well seeing that you want to continue to play the victim, Please refer to my previous posts, still waiting for you to clarify why your Main Impulse Master account, which is now hidden, can not be verified. As previously stated, if you can provide a plausible explanation, I will sincerely apologise.

    FYI, telling me over and over, you have answered, when clearly you have not answered, does not make it an answer.
    Last edited by Drcdp; 11-13-2017, 06:41 PM.

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