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    • Outside the Box --- December 2018 Performance
      • December monthly Profit Return in PIPS -- 435
      • December monthly Profit Return in PERCENT (low risk) -- 4.07%
      • December monthly Profit Return in PERCENT (medium risk) -- 7.96%
      • December monthly Profit Return in PERCENT (high risk) -- 11.46%


      The Max Drawdown has now been improved so that both PIP HUNTERS and also PROFIT % HUNTERS will be more interested in this strategy
      • Max Drawdown (peak to trough) last 8 months -- 11% OR 800 pips
        Total Profit % last 8 months -- 108% or 3970 pips
      • Max Drawdown (peak to trough) last 22 months -- 25% OR 1000 pips
        Total Profit % last 22 months -- 2240% OR 6700 pips

      Over and over again, what is proven to me to be the most important, is to shake off momentary losses so that miserable experience can teach me what to avoid in the future so that my strategy can reach higher levels of Capital --- this has always been my focus, and I have had to endure much criticism and failure to get this far. That is why I have chosen to be more active on social FX trading forums and platforms, so that I could document my journey and now the truth is set in stone regarding history and performance
      All who are interested to review past statistics and posts in the forums can check how I have performed and communicated regarding:
      • verified track record of statistics on trading performance
      • how I manage client issues
      • how I manage drawdown periods
      • how I communicate my risk management / trade plan
      • how well I can adhere to these stated plans
      “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

      Outside the Box - Myfxbook
      Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying
      Outside the Box - MQL5 Trade Copying
      Outside the Box - ZuluTrade (performance fees & trade copying)

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      • Taking a big hit on your Zulu account ?

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        • Originally posted by RenkoGuy View Post
          Taking a big hit on your Zulu account ?
          Same as my master account for OTB NEW signal here --- 4.5% drawdown with 1.89% booked profit in month of January. This is well within the performance I have had in the past.
          All part of trading.
          Zulu measures everything in pips which doesn't take into account lot sizing of those pips. So almost no one thinks in Percentages / Risk which is not good to teach this to investors.
          Over the 22 months of my track record I once had open trades totaling 800 to 1000 pips negative, but this was only twice, and I avoid it by trading with less volume / less risk now.
          About 500 pips between 8 open trades is fine. Still manageable especially since I already booked almost 2% profit this month.
          “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

          Outside the Box - Myfxbook
          Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying
          Outside the Box - MQL5 Trade Copying
          Outside the Box - ZuluTrade (performance fees & trade copying)

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          • Originally posted by OutsideTheBoxHK View Post

            Same as my master account for OTB NEW signal here --- 4.5% drawdown with 1.89% booked profit in month of January. This is well within the performance I have had in the past.
            All part of trading.
            Zulu measures everything in pips which doesn't take into account lot sizing of those pips. So almost no one thinks in Percentages / Risk which is not good to teach this to investors.
            Over the 22 months of my track record I once had open trades totaling 800 to 1000 pips negative, but this was only twice, and I avoid it by trading with less volume / less risk now.
            About 500 pips between 8 open trades is fine. Still manageable especially since I already booked almost 2% profit this month.
            Yes, Zulu is all about counting pips.

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            • Originally posted by OutsideTheBoxHK View Post

              Same as my master account for OTB NEW signal here --- 4.5% drawdown with 1.89% booked profit in month of January. This is well within the performance I have had in the past.
              All part of trading.
              Zulu measures everything in pips which doesn't take into account lot sizing of those pips. So almost no one thinks in Percentages / Risk which is not good to teach this to investors.
              Over the 22 months of my track record I once had open trades totaling 800 to 1000 pips negative, but this was only twice, and I avoid it by trading with less volume / less risk now.
              About 500 pips between 8 open trades is fine. Still manageable especially since I already booked almost 2% profit this month.
              While your right about Zulu pip counting, I think you managed to pull off an amateur move. Getting into those positions on a Friday and on NFP friday of all fridays probably wasn't a great idea. This really would have saved you some losses on that really nice gain you had just previous. Really would have saved you from the pickle you are in right now. Not to mention the signals in the market that indicate the market was more than likely going to do a major pullback including the daily candle from Thursday January 3rd. While I agree with the overall direction of the AUD going down, this could be a nice sizable move up here.

              Don't get me wrong, I am really supportive of your trading as its been more than reasonable. I was a bit surprised to see the unnecessary risk taking. Either you are using an EA for execution or you were just not patient enough to allow the market to show you a proper setup that it was going to go short. Every time frame indicated the market was long.
              Last edited by NextGen4FX; 01-13-2019, 06:56 AM.

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              • Not the best entry positioning, but these types of "mistakes" do happen and have been publicly shown on my 2 year track record.
                I have gone into great length to explain the current Risk Management and Trade Plan on Zulu Trade, so please go there if you are interested to read more.

                https://forum.zulutrade.com/t/outsid...utsidetheboxhk

                https://www.zulutrade.com/trader/375788/social
                “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                Outside the Box - Myfxbook
                Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying
                Outside the Box - MQL5 Trade Copying
                Outside the Box - ZuluTrade (performance fees & trade copying)

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                • “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                  You know not everyone had the chance to do that right ? If they followed you, there is nothing left to start the learning process with.

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                  • Originally posted by Westie View Post
                    “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                    You know not everyone had the chance to do that right ? If they followed you, there is nothing left to start the learning process with.
                    Hey Westie sorry I don't know what you mean. Both my PAMM fund and trade copying strategies have been great over the last 9 months especially. Nothing left of what? Were you running high risk? changing the risk management? running multiple signals on one trading account? adding your own trades?
                    I believe if someone wants to follow a trader, then they must invest their entire account in that one strategy with the exact risk management of the manager. Otherwise they won't be replicating his profits.
                    “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                    Outside the Box - Myfxbook
                    Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying
                    Outside the Box - MQL5 Trade Copying
                    Outside the Box - ZuluTrade (performance fees & trade copying)

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                    • I'm not invested, I just read a post on another forum - it was someone following your high risk 2 account.

                      I guess he was running at increased risk or some weird lot sizing as none of your accounts on myfxbook have blown up.

                      My apologies, I guess you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.

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                      • Originally posted by Westie View Post
                        I'm not invested, I just read a post on another forum - it was someone following your high risk 2 account.

                        I guess he was running at increased risk or some weird lot sizing as none of your accounts on myfxbook have blown up.

                        My apologies, I guess you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet.
                        Would u like to diversify your investment portfolio with an innovative trading system?

                        KEY FACTORS:
                        - Only 1-2% risk per week
                        - Extra ordinary risk management policy with VPS protection
                        - Very good reward vs risk
                        - Strategies and risk diversifying facility
                        - Solid and stable growth for life time

                        LIVE TRADING PERFORMANCE:
                        https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mon...reward/2532208

                        PAST 10 YEARS BACKTEST RESULT:
                        1xRisk - https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/...-1xrisk/135322
                        2xRisk - https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/...-2xrisk/135297

                        I look forward to hearing from you. If you have any further discussion, feel free to ask anything.

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                        • Originally posted by monira View Post

                          Would u like to diversify your investment portfolio with an innovative trading system?

                          KEY FACTORS:
                          - Only 1-2% risk per week
                          - Extra ordinary risk management policy with VPS protection
                          - Very good reward vs risk
                          - Strategies and risk diversifying facility
                          - Solid and stable growth for life time

                          LIVE TRADING PERFORMANCE:
                          https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mon...reward/2532208

                          PAST 10 YEARS BACKTEST RESULT:
                          1xRisk - https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/...-1xrisk/135322
                          2xRisk - https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/...-2xrisk/135297

                          I look forward to hearing from you. If you have any further discussion, feel free to ask anything.
                          All the reason no one here should trust your trading... How rude and unprofessional!

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                          • Originally posted by NextGen4FX View Post

                            All the reason no one here should trust your trading... How rude and unprofessional!
                            Please explain. How rude? and How unprofessional?
                            Don't be jealous.
                            Last edited by monira; 01-14-2019, 05:21 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by monira View Post

                              Would u like to diversify your investment portfolio with an innovative trading system?

                              KEY FACTORS:
                              - Only 1-2% risk per week
                              - Extra ordinary risk management policy with VPS protection
                              - Very good reward vs risk
                              - Strategies and risk diversifying facility
                              - Solid and stable growth for life time

                              LIVE TRADING PERFORMANCE:
                              https://www.myfxbook.com/members/mon...reward/2532208

                              PAST 10 YEARS BACKTEST RESULT:
                              1xRisk - https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/...-1xrisk/135322
                              2xRisk - https://www.myfxbook.com/strategies/...-2xrisk/135297

                              I look forward to hearing from you. If you have any further discussion, feel free to ask anything.
                              "VPS protection " & "Strategies and risk diversifying facility"

                              Now that sounds like a vacuum cleaner sales man.
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                              • Originally posted by Drcdp View Post

                                "VPS protection " & "Strategies and risk diversifying facility"

                                Now that sounds like a vacuum cleaner sales man.
                                ​​​​
                                Why dont you remove his anwser it don't belong in this thread !

                                Or do you only remove my anwsers ?

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