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  • #31
    Hi Gregory,

    Sent you an email about the contract/agreement,

    I have no idea if you got it as it was a mass send, let me know what you think
    SATANG FX - FOREX MANAGED ACCOUNTS & SIGNALS

    WWW.SATANGFX.COM

    SATANG FX LIVE MASTER ACCOUNT
    https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Sat...master/2310608

    SATANG FX MANAGED ACCOUNT 1.5 x RISK AUD
    https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Sat...unt-15/2310656

    SATANG FX MANAGED ACCOUNT 1.5 x RISK USD
    https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Sat...unt-15/2378553

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    • #32
      How did you get 60% drawdown on this account? https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Out...x-pamm/2239172
      Put the edge in your hands.
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      Github - Contact for Verified Trading History

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      • #33
        Originally posted by HedgeBitcoin View Post
        How did you get 60% drawdown on this account? https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Out...x-pamm/2239172
        I decided to switch to a higher risk management that I used to run early in 2017, which means higher returns and potential for higher drawdowns.
        At the that time I lost my only PAMM client at that fund, and the strategy had a loss for the year to that dat (since Sept 2017), so I decided to take action and trade as I described on the system's description which reads:
        "2x to 2.5x risk multiplier of normal Outside the Box Risk Management

        HotForex PAMM

        My strategies are available on SignalStart, SimpleTrader, MQL5, and HotForexCopy to copy and Mt Cook Financial to invest in PAMM fund.

        Using same strategy and as master account in Early 2017 to daytrade the lower timeframes. Takes some of same trades as master account at 2x risk and also extra trades to target 25% returns per month approximately.

        Drawdown may reach 50 to 60% in the early months and then will be gradually reduced once track record is repaired for better strategy for PAMM investors.
        Use this account to make an alternate source of income and have upside compounding potential with "safe" High Water Mark performance fee compensation.

        Use $1000 to $2000 as initial investment, there is far more to gain than what is proven to be at risk with a strategy of over 18 months.
        “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

        Outside the Box - Myfxbook
        Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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        • #34
          Progress on new projects (that you might like to know about)
          • DARWIN (Dynamic Asset and Risk Weighted Investment)
          • High Return strategy
          • AxiSelect emerging fund manager capital incubation
          1. First investor at Darwinex.
            https://www.darwinex.com/darwin/BUX.4.4
            https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Out...x-fund/2571506
            They have a unique way of allowing investors to follow strategy providers. So it looks like their monthly Darwinia Allocation Contest for top 48 traders is quite compelling, along with their quite exceptional exchange with quite a huge exposure to investors. A Darwin is a financial asset based on a trader (or automated strategy) trading at Darwinex. As an investor you can buy and sell DARWINs just like you would trade stocks. Each DARWIN has a certain value when you buy it, and depending on the performance of the trader who provides the DARWIN, the value will go up or down. Behind the scenes, each time the DARWIN’s trader places a trade, Darwinex opens or closes a trade in that asset on behalf of investors, given what they have calculated to be optimal risk to minimise Drawdown and maximise Profit. Each DARWIN starts from 100 at inception and the price updates every 30 seconds based on the performance.
          2. AxiSelect Incubation is now going....https://psyquation.com/app/#!/home/leaderboard (ranked 31)
            https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Out...master/2590238
            with Allocation account found by clicking on button at top right labelled "Incubator"
          3. OTBHK Low Risk master account -- #41 at SignalStart -- 18 months track record -- consistent new equity highs -- #14 on SimpleTrader strategy board
            https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Out...ccount/2087437
          4. NEW OTB High Risk account attracting more attention now -- #4 at SignalStart -- 4 months track record -- trading like the old days when I was excited about having developed my own strategy that has a real proven edge in the markets.
            https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Out...ovider/2450316






          “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

          Outside the Box - Myfxbook
          Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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          • #35
            Regarding ESMA and Darwinex
            How they propose to "skirt" the margin/leverage restrictions with their investors/DARWIN's.....I was asking how this might affect the returns on strategies listed on their DARWIN database.
            I heard back from Darwinex this morning and here's how they responded:


            We are offering traders the possibility of becoming a professional client; although we have run some stats on our traders and found that most of our best traders do not run a leverage over 25 on their trading operations (although every trader is different of course)

            Darwinex will accomplish targeted 10% VaR via our Asset Manager Firm- investor´s capital will be replicating strategy under this 10% VaR - Our Asset Manager is the one adjusting VaR and adding or reducing leverage to investor´s capital following the traders. There is no limitations for our Asset Manager Firm.
            Those are our comments to ESMA:

            https://blog.darwinex.com/esma-product-intervention/
            https://blog.darwinex.com/esma-lever...stors-darwins/
            https://blog.darwinex.com/implementa...tical-example/
            “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

            Outside the Box - Myfxbook
            Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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            • #36
              Hello Investors

              Quick update for July 2018:

              Flagship SimpleTrader signal ...... 11.94% monthly gain
              https://goo.gl/7Y6J2S
              Medium Risk PAMM ..... 28.02% monthly gain
              https://goo.gl/ZHk5gS
              High Risk signal ....... 77.41% monthly gain
              https://goo.gl/kifEXZ

              Very good outcome and new Equity High Water Mark yet again.
              This will be the final month for new subscribers to take advantage of the Summer Promotions currently on offer when you subscribe here at SimpleTrader. Pls comment and PM me with any concern and I'll respond within 48 hours.

              ** Multi-month Reduced Subscription Fees PLUS only place I offer both Free Trial on 6- and 12-month subscriptions and MONEY BACK GUARANTEE on 12-month subscription.

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              “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

              Outside the Box - Myfxbook
              Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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              • #37
                I've just PM'd you regarding the offer.

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                • #38
                  Hi could I ask anyone that does subscribe if they have any issues with slippage or has that not ben a problem.

                  Thanks

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                  • #39
                    Out of interest, what are your current open positions that are causing this DD?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by primi View Post
                      Out of interest, what are your current open positions that are causing this DD?
                      I am not able to disclose that information due to agreements I have with clients and subscribers.
                      Pls understand that total funds following my strategy is around $500,000 not counting "undisclosed" funds from SimpleTrader subscribers, so I must direct this private info to those I have agreements with.
                      If you PM me, and if there is a good reason for your question, I can relieve your curiosity without actually disclosing the positions. I steer well clear of long debates and needless speculations.
                      “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                      Outside the Box - Myfxbook
                      Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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                      • #41
                        It was a simple question and if I subscribe I'll see them anyway regardless of your agreements. I wanted to know what's causing 7% DD without wasting my money to get the info. You don't say - I don't pay. I have an extra account as of today and it's in need of a signal. There are other options that I actually prefer (not in terms of results but in terms of the way they are traded).

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by primi View Post
                          I have an extra account as of today and it's in need of a signal. There are other options that I actually prefer (not in terms of results but in terms of the way they are traded).
                          I got a notification from FXCharlie, so apparently I have an extra account as of today, too.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by fiveninefish View Post

                            I got a notification from FXCharlie, so apparently I have an extra account as of today, too.
                            Hey me too !

                            Mind you comments like 'agreements I have with clients and subscribers' rules this one out for me.

                            Good luck though.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by primi View Post
                              It was a simple question and if I subscribe I'll see them anyway regardless of your agreements. I wanted to know what's causing 7% DD without wasting my money to get the info. You don't say - I don't pay. I have an extra account as of today and it's in need of a signal. There are other options that I actually prefer (not in terms of results but in terms of the way they are traded).
                              Basically I trade for a living and I must cover all my expenses from trading proceeds for my family, living in the most expensive location in the world.
                              I am short AUDUSD. And on the high risk strategy I am long GBPAUD.

                              Normally, history of closed trades are open to the public. Open trades are not. That is a service to paying clients.
                              I believe this is the same as other respected traders here.
                              “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                              Outside the Box - Myfxbook
                              Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by primi View Post
                                I wanted to know what's causing 7% DD without wasting my money to get the info.

                                The drawdown on the Signal is now approximately 2%.
                                Stochastics and other momentum indicators on the daily and monthly timeframes seem to have re-asserted control over the bigger downtrend that I believe will continue into September due to political uncertainty in Aussie, trade wars, Emerging market troubles, etc.
                                “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                                Outside the Box - Myfxbook
                                Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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