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  • #61
    monira 8 years of profitable trading and still no live result of 6 months . any sane guy would always choose Outside the box before your system on any given day . Am gonna mention it one last time If you have a profitable system with atleast 6months of results verified by myfxbook then share it in the forum
    Thats the only thing that matters

    And when you call yourself system researcher ,in simple words it just means you are a holy grail hunter

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    • #62
      Originally posted by monira

      8 years experience not 8 years profitable trader.
      I have just started my journey as a profitable and professional trader.

      I am not a holy grail hunter at all. I have been researching in order to build a track record for a life time period.

      I am now a complete trader both by psychologically and systematically.
      After 5 years or 10 years or more you would find my system on going with solid growth.
      So let me get this correct

      You just started your profitable journey in recent months but seem to have all the knowledge to know which systems will work or not
      I think it would be nice if you can comeback after 1 year to show your results
      And another thing i would like to suggest to you is tone down the ego , no need to show yourself as the alpha male .Relax you are in a safeplace

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      • #63
        Originally posted by daileycon

        And that is why I called you a joke, you're website is pretty misleading for investors. You might want to fix your links on your performance page. http://monirainvestment.com/performance/
        Agreed and you hit the spot with your comments. Very misleading and the performance on the website does not even match up with the FXBook provided. I hate sites that do this and it just shows a lack of honesty of the SP. Hes in here bashing another signal that seems to be much more honest but yet cannot show a record with an account using his trading system that is profitable long term. An account with only 1 profitable month doesn't count for squat.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by monira

          I will explain everything with details. Just keep patience.
          There is no patience when you come in here bashing another signal and yet fail to show proof. When it comes to trading its put up or shut up. It looks even worse on you when you promote trading services of your own and just shows why you are really here. Just by looking at your website it just says dishonesty and SCAM all over it. Don't be offended but just see what I mean by looking at it yourself and see what you are doing here. I personally assist in taking down scams everyday. Helping people find the real faces behind the masks and shadows of the web. Assisting them in building their cases and submitting the real information to the right places to ensure the right people are taken down. If someone showed me your website, I'd point them in another direction. Again, take no offense.

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          • #65
            monira this is what your "performance" page of your website reads. where do these "monthly return" stats come from? what about the last 8 months? The "Kingfisher" live track record link is dead. And posting a backtest strategy means next to nothing with regards to future performance of a strategy that supposedly follows the same system.
            Again, as others have said, be humble, don't go shooting off your mouth when people are tired of online cruelty, trolling, and having to wade thru heaps and heaps of false claims, deception, and outright lies on the internet these days. We want to make money and keep this forum and this site as clean, trustworthy, and as good as possible.

            We now have to assess the claims of top-ranked systems Fxm piggy bankandScrptx portfolio too.
            As we have seen recently on very famous systems on MQL5 with 100's of subscribers, only to have the signal provider blow up in one month and run away with thousands of dollars in subscription fees without providing an answer to the community who lost hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions. This post from Donna Forex (BEWARE rogue signal providers!) that I have quoted elsewhere I will mention again as a warning to false / deceptive sales of Forex trading systems for trade copying or PAMM investment:

            "As many on this site are already aware there are numerous unscrupulous signal providers ready to take advantage of 'innocent' investors, however, the MQL5 signal service takes some beating this year with the total loss of investor funds now approaching $5M ( yes million!) with just two signal providers. The signals are then immediately removed from the website, giving the impression that the site offers only 'safe' systems....similar to many other signal provider websites..

            The way this works is that even though MQL5 try to flag the more risky systems, there is no stopping the greed and impulsiveness of investors when they see steady double-digit growth month after month, until the subscribers are so many the trader only needs one month's subs to retire comfortably and swiftly loses all interest in his clients.
            The latest 'dragon' and 'safe dragon' GBP/JPY 20% month return systems calamity comes swiftly after the loss of a $3M investors funds from a 'no-lose' S&P 'long only' system."



            Monira.JPG
            “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

            Outside the Box - Myfxbook
            Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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            • #66
              Originally posted by OutsideTheBoxHK View Post
              monira this is what your "performance" page of your website reads. where do these "monthly return" stats come from? what about the last 8 months? The "Kingfisher" live track record link is dead. And posting a backtest strategy means next to nothing with regards to future performance of a strategy that supposedly follows the same system.
              Again, as others have said, be humble, don't go shooting off your mouth when people are tired of online cruelty, trolling, and having to wade thru heaps and heaps of false claims, deception, and outright lies on the internet these days. We want to make money and keep this forum and this site as clean, trustworthy, and as good as possible.

              We now have to assess the claims of top-ranked systems Fxm piggy bankandScrptx portfolio too.
              As we have seen recently on very famous systems on MQL5 with 100's of subscribers, only to have the signal provider blow up in one month and run away with thousands of dollars in subscription fees without providing an answer to the community who lost hundreds of thousands of dollars if not millions. This post from Donna Forex (BEWARE rogue signal providers!) that I have quoted elsewhere I will mention again as a warning to false / deceptive sales of Forex trading systems for trade copying or PAMM investment:

              "As many on this site are already aware there are numerous unscrupulous signal providers ready to take advantage of 'innocent' investors, however, the MQL5 signal service takes some beating this year with the total loss of investor funds now approaching $5M ( yes million!) with just two signal providers. The signals are then immediately removed from the website, giving the impression that the site offers only 'safe' systems....similar to many other signal provider websites..

              The way this works is that even though MQL5 try to flag the more risky systems, there is no stopping the greed and impulsiveness of investors when they see steady double-digit growth month after month, until the subscribers are so many the trader only needs one month's subs to retire comfortably and swiftly loses all interest in his clients.
              The latest 'dragon' and 'safe dragon' GBP/JPY 20% month return systems calamity comes swiftly after the loss of a $3M investors funds from a 'no-lose' S&P 'long only' system."



              Monira.JPG
              Gee my Golly gosh, I can never seem to get past the second line of your posts before I fall asleep. The funny thing is, you and the other nutters are fighting over an carcass that was already ravaged by Viper. There is nothing left to eat. Deary me, bring back the good old days when Viper was King Viper on this forum, and we all met up in Vegas, now that kept me awake!

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              • #67
                Originally posted by monira
                Tradersmurf , Honestly speaking my service is fully transparent. I will take more 2-3 months to add contents and explanation of my services.
                I use VPS for trade management, risk management and transparent services. Myfxbook auto updater is attached to VPS server. So, NO hidden floating
                dd is possible.

                I always appreciate your suggestion in order to provide trust worthy and better services.

                Thanks
                Gee wizz, hold your horses cowboy! I have no idea what you talking about? Did you actually read my post?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by monira

                  Yes. I read. You have given some example of fraud signal provider.
                  Hell no, Viper was King Viper! The king of all kings, the alpha Lion. This place was on fire when he was around. Now, its like a kinder garden with a bunch of loonies.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Tradersmurf View Post

                    Hell no, Viper was King Viper! The king of all kings, the alpha Lion. This place was on fire when he was around. Now, its like a kinder garden with a bunch of loonies.
                    Yeah i bet you were in a euphoric state when Viper made 7.2 pips a day.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Tradersmurf View Post

                      Hell no, Viper was King Viper! The king of all kings, the alpha Lion. This place was on fire when he was around. Now, its like a kinder garden with a bunch of loonies.

                      Viper ended up blowing up. If you analyzed his trading, his risk management was terrible. He held EURUSD shorts for like 2 years or something. He carried a huge drawdown and then he deleted his MyFXBook account and moved to the Bahamas and went totally private and off the grid.
                      “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                      Outside the Box - Myfxbook
                      Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by OutsideTheBoxHK View Post


                        Viper ended up blowing up. If you analyzed his trading, his risk management was terrible. He held EURUSD shorts for like 2 years or something. He carried a huge drawdown and then he deleted his MyFXBook account and moved to the Bahamas and went totally private and off the grid.
                        Viper, or like I like to refer to him, King Viper, was the greatest, the Mohammed Ali of trading, please dont insult him, you are hurting my feelings.

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                        • #72
                          Here's Nick's final post on the FXViper thread here at ForexSignals and how it all blew up and ended.
                          I've attached an image of how long FXViper would hold trades and would massage his monthly stats (with almost no eye on overall drawdown of equity) just so that investors would keep coming in and the growth curve looked like it was going only up. A bit like what Bernie Madoff did with his Ponzie Scheme. It's ok if both you and your investors have unlimited capital backing them/you.
                          To be able to ride out the long drawdowns and recover at some point in the future.



                          Originally posted by Nick View Post
                          Well... it finally happened.


                          You guys only saw one side of our relationship with Jeff on this forum. While a great, hospitable guy, he's also very volatile.
                          He has threatened to quit over 20 times in the past 2 years. Always over small things like a negative post on the forum, or me asking a question about the market and possible game plan if things moved against him
                          It all came to a head last month when he closed out the MAM's in the middle of the night without telling us and then refused to trade until he got paid his performance fees 2 weeks early (this was the reason he stopped trading, not because he needed a rest).
                          I explained that we can't just stick our hands into people's accounts in the middle of the month because he wanted to get paid, however he threatened to leave unless we did. So we moved heaven and earth to get him a $35,000 cheque and keep him on side. Everything seemed fine, until now, when I've been woken up by Will at 2am with the news that Jeff has posted on the forum that's he's quitting.
                          Honestly, I'm not actually that upset that he's decided to stop, the circumstances are certainly flabbergasting (He refused to get on a call with me and then deleted me from Skype) but all being said, I’'ve harbored fears about his strategy for a while.
                          I know many of you out there see him as a trading demigod, but the reality is that his returns have only gone in one direction, and for an obvious reason. His claims of "managing risk" are in actual fact a fear of damaging his track record of unbroken months. So he'’ll happily hold trades forever (literally) without any real cap on the downside risk provided he can still bank small winners while waiting for the market to cooperate with his view.
                          If the EURUSD had pushed up to 1.25 like many of us feared, I honestly don’t know what would have happened, and Jeff refused to discuss it… How can we work with a strategy that can’t articulate a game plan should the market move against them?
                          I know what you’re thinking. “"Sure, you say that now!”"
                          But please appreciate the sticky situation we were in. We were largely beholden to Jeff and not in a position to force his hand due to the legacy of our relationship. If things had gone bad we would have manually intervened and cut the trades, but that’s not really a solution. A trader should be able to take responsibility themselves, but with Jeff… I had zero confidence that he’d be able to make the tough decision when the time came.
                          I won'’t even go into the fact that his returns have continued to shrink and the only thing he’s interested in doing is shorting EURUSD…. Let’s face it, forex is riskier than ever right now with the recent flash crash, and if we’re going to be here in 10 years time making millions of dollars from the markets, it’s gotta be with traders that share that vision, don’t trade scared and have a consistent edge.
                          We pride ourselves as a bastion of trading talent and many of you trust our recommendations without question so we owe it to you guys to ensure that every trader that’s on ForexSignals.com or ThinkHugeInvestments.com is absolutely world class.
                          So the question is - If the FX Viper strategy came across our desk today, would we trade it?


                          No.


                          I don't know... I'm hesitant to be too negative here for risk of being seen as a bad sport. But we need to deal with the reality of the situation. I've personally been trying to think of a way to get FX Viper off my own accounts without looking like abandoning our cornerstone strategy for a while now. So while shocking for you guys, it's actually not such a bad thing from my perspective.

                          Moving forward we'll be contacting all clients via email explaining the situation. All FX Viper MAM accounts will be connected to SteadyCapture when the market opens on the 14th of November unless specifically asked to be removed.

                          Why SteadyCapture? Because he's the best trader on the site and shown through years of perseverance that he can manage large sums of capital in a responsible way.

                          The 3x MAM will likely trade 2x risk and the 2x MAM's will trade 1.5x risk, however let me confirm that with you guys over the coming days.

                          https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nic...x-risk/1307966

                          http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Stea...e-live/1211446

                          This is not the end of the road, there are now more reasons than ever to celebrate. We finally got out of this year long drawdown on EURUSD through a bit of luck and thanks to the optimism in the US Economy about Trump’s election.


                          We cash out at equity high’s and can now reallocate the capital to more robust strategies that possess the dynamism needed to last the long term and deliver the financial freedom we’re striving for.'
                          -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          FXViper1.JPG
                          “Learn from your mistakes and do not give up!”

                          Outside the Box - Myfxbook
                          Outside the Box - SimpleTrader Trade Copying

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by OutsideTheBoxHK View Post
                            Here's Nick's final post on the FXViper thread here at ForexSignals and how it all blew up and ended.
                            I've attached an image of how long FXViper would hold trades and would massage his monthly stats (with almost no eye on overall drawdown of equity) just so that investors would keep coming in and the growth curve looked like it was going only up. A bit like what Bernie Madoff did with his Ponzie Scheme. It's ok if both you and your investors have unlimited capital backing them/you.
                            To be able to ride out the long drawdowns and recover at some point in the future.



                            Originally posted by Nick View Post
                            Well... it finally happened.


                            You guys only saw one side of our relationship with Jeff on this forum. While a great, hospitable guy, he's also very volatile.
                            He has threatened to quit over 20 times in the past 2 years. Always over small things like a negative post on the forum, or me asking a question about the market and possible game plan if things moved against him
                            It all came to a head last month when he closed out the MAM's in the middle of the night without telling us and then refused to trade until he got paid his performance fees 2 weeks early (this was the reason he stopped trading, not because he needed a rest).
                            I explained that we can't just stick our hands into people's accounts in the middle of the month because he wanted to get paid, however he threatened to leave unless we did. So we moved heaven and earth to get him a $35,000 cheque and keep him on side. Everything seemed fine, until now, when I've been woken up by Will at 2am with the news that Jeff has posted on the forum that's he's quitting.
                            Honestly, I'm not actually that upset that he's decided to stop, the circumstances are certainly flabbergasting (He refused to get on a call with me and then deleted me from Skype) but all being said, I’'ve harbored fears about his strategy for a while.
                            I know many of you out there see him as a trading demigod, but the reality is that his returns have only gone in one direction, and for an obvious reason. His claims of "managing risk" are in actual fact a fear of damaging his track record of unbroken months. So he'’ll happily hold trades forever (literally) without any real cap on the downside risk provided he can still bank small winners while waiting for the market to cooperate with his view.
                            If the EURUSD had pushed up to 1.25 like many of us feared, I honestly don’t know what would have happened, and Jeff refused to discuss it… How can we work with a strategy that can’t articulate a game plan should the market move against them?
                            I know what you’re thinking. “"Sure, you say that now!”"
                            But please appreciate the sticky situation we were in. We were largely beholden to Jeff and not in a position to force his hand due to the legacy of our relationship. If things had gone bad we would have manually intervened and cut the trades, but that’s not really a solution. A trader should be able to take responsibility themselves, but with Jeff… I had zero confidence that he’d be able to make the tough decision when the time came.
                            I won'’t even go into the fact that his returns have continued to shrink and the only thing he’s interested in doing is shorting EURUSD…. Let’s face it, forex is riskier than ever right now with the recent flash crash, and if we’re going to be here in 10 years time making millions of dollars from the markets, it’s gotta be with traders that share that vision, don’t trade scared and have a consistent edge.
                            We pride ourselves as a bastion of trading talent and many of you trust our recommendations without question so we owe it to you guys to ensure that every trader that’s on ForexSignals.com or ThinkHugeInvestments.com is absolutely world class.
                            So the question is - If the FX Viper strategy came across our desk today, would we trade it?


                            No.


                            I don't know... I'm hesitant to be too negative here for risk of being seen as a bad sport. But we need to deal with the reality of the situation. I've personally been trying to think of a way to get FX Viper off my own accounts without looking like abandoning our cornerstone strategy for a while now. So while shocking for you guys, it's actually not such a bad thing from my perspective.

                            Moving forward we'll be contacting all clients via email explaining the situation. All FX Viper MAM accounts will be connected to SteadyCapture when the market opens on the 14th of November unless specifically asked to be removed.

                            Why SteadyCapture? Because he's the best trader on the site and shown through years of perseverance that he can manage large sums of capital in a responsible way.

                            The 3x MAM will likely trade 2x risk and the 2x MAM's will trade 1.5x risk, however let me confirm that with you guys over the coming days.

                            https://www.myfxbook.com/members/Nic...x-risk/1307966

                            http://www.myfxbook.com/members/Stea...e-live/1211446

                            This is not the end of the road, there are now more reasons than ever to celebrate. We finally got out of this year long drawdown on EURUSD through a bit of luck and thanks to the optimism in the US Economy about Trump’s election.


                            We cash out at equity high’s and can now reallocate the capital to more robust strategies that possess the dynamism needed to last the long term and deliver the financial freedom we’re striving for.'
                            -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                            FXViper1.JPG
                            Long Live the King! Long Live the King!! Viva King Viper, Viva!

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                            • #74
                              OutsideTheBoxHK This Clown Tradersmurf is trolling you. he joined the side long after Viper was gone, and he has
                              ​​​​​​​only $ 500 to invest.

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                              • #75
                                Since the days of Viper, fox and many others failures, would you say that the standard of signals that are available now has improved.

                                Granted there are still some dubious ones.

                                For example Outside the Box seems to have a lot more protection in place for his subs than the earlier signals.

                                There are quite a few that seem worthy of consideration now, offering low drawdown and or sticking to their rules when action needs to be taken.

                                A few that spring to mind are MHD, Satang, Momentum Capture, SFE, Rettangolo and FX4Charlie (before he removed it)

                                I am sure there are others.

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